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[โ€“] Why9 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I agree with your views on the Arab world but that's irrelevant to the discussion here?

Should it be illegal to burn religious books for ~~the sole purpose of inciting hated~~ freedom of speech? Probably not, but there needs to be some measure against people who are doing stuff like that purely for that reaction.

It turned the relatively peaceful streets of Finland into one with anger and violence, because one guy wanted to make a point. People were happy to let it happen until people from the opposite camp started burning Torahs. Suddenly it became an actionable issue.

Regardless of your views on the Arab world (of which I again, agree), a law that protects some and condemns others is the fastest path to instability and chaos and must be avoided at all costs. That's what's being discussed here.

I don't have an answer. I don't think it should be illegal, but I do think freedom of speech needs to have limits.

[โ€“] HerrBeter 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem is still feeling entitled to rioting, death threatening, and all that for simply being circumstancly offended. The protest is justified imo, and should always be so. How are we supposed to protest any fascistic and dogmatic entities if we're not allowed to protest using symbols?

[โ€“] SwedishFool 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed, anybody has the right to be angry, mad, feel disrespected, and protest his actions. What they did instead by rioting and attacking people was to prove the point he was trying to make.

It's quite simple in my opinion: Be better, PROVE you're the religion of peace by separating yourself from the radicalism preached by the rich Arab countries and power hungry imams enriching themselves. Prove that you're compatible with the western world and embrace the fruits of our freedom instead of rioting to have the captivity you escaped from.

[โ€“] spez_ 3 points 1 year ago

We should ban religion, it's for our freedom

[โ€“] SwedishFool 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe any form of burning books regardless of source should be legal. The ramifications of doing it is to get laughed at and have people shaking their heads; the same reaction that was given when bibles and swedish flags were burnt.

In fact, we even had a torah being burnt outside a synagogue here. The rabbi defended the action, calling the "right of free expression" a holy right within the borders.

The fact that this is even a debate is ridiculous, as it's clouded by disinformation and lies.