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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Parking structures are insanely expensive. Like, each parking spot in a parking structure costs like 30X what it costs to build a surface parking spot. It's a crapload of concrete, and with climate change, concrete ain't getting cheaper (concrete is extremely carbon-intensive, it releases CO2 intrinsically, not just from power-generation).

edit, since I'm getting downvotes and I assume this post is being read as an endorsement of city-destroying surface parking: The correct solution is just to not do parking at all except for extreme needs and focus on human-scale transportation.

[–] Agent641 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Human-scale transportation

Trebuchets, got it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

But about 2 meters.

That's about 1.5 Ben Shapiro's, for the Americans.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Parking in general is expensive, along with all of the rest of car infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, but concrete parking structures are an order of magnitude moreso. Assuming $50k per parking spot and a 25-year mortgage, each spot will incur $328.58 in monthly mortgage costs. Assuming full occupancy every workday and zero on weekends (21 workdays per month) that means the daily parking fee should be $16 just to break even. This is a thumbnail sketch of course, but it shows the kind of costs we're talking about.

[–] Agent641 7 points 1 year ago

Then youve got maintenance, insurance, security, employees...

[–] Ddhuud 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Upfront, yes. But you're not counting the energy that everyone uses and will forever have to use to roam around a city that is way larger than it needs to be. Not to mention the obvious wasted land.