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What do you think of framework and their methods? (frame.work)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/technology

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

From linux perspective which is better, Framework or System76?

I have been looking to upgrade my laptop (i5-8250U) with something decent. I don't game, so dont require heavy graphics that draws too much power.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

System76 is a bit strange. Their laptops are more expensive than other windows brands, while offering Linux. I'm not sure if it's really worth going with them, as a lot of other laptops ca work with Linux. Tho maybe I missed something about their laptops.

Framework I think I saw some Poole saying it has some issues running Linux with some component incompatibilities. Tho you may want to do more research, maybe even opening some reddit threads and dodging useless comments.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly dont mind paying a bit premium to System76 if they have good quality and better support for Linux.

I have grown tired of the cheap hinges that have been plaguing laptops.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah... I'm not sure about the quality being really better than competition. Tho maybe Linux support may be better depending on what components different laptops use.

[–] Pyroglyph 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm 90% sure all of System76's offerings are rebadged Clevo laptops.

[–] Spedwell 3 points 1 year ago

There's an explanation of the relationship floating somewhere online, but yeah. S76 works with Clevo to design their products, then does the software and firmware support in-house. Clevo will offer their own product reusing portions—i.e. the chassis—of the S76 model.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The system76 system at least assures you that it will work with Linux. There are some stories here and there about some laptop part not working beacuse of lack of support for Linux. Other than that i see no reason at all and likely any other laptop will work with linux as well , its just not as certain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My experience with Linux on my Framework has been pretty good but admittedly not perfect. If you want an idea you can check out the Arch Wiki's Framework page. Personally I think the repairability and upgradability of Framework outweighs the marginal increased Linux support you get with System76 (assuming they have no issues), but Linux isn't as big a priority for Framework as it is for System76.