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Hello everyone,

so I'm not actually from New Zealand, but from Europe and I'm currently very worried about the rising popularity of facism and alt-right politics in my country and europe in general. I'm very scared of experiencing physical violence and I'm now very seriously considering moving to another country before the facist parties are elected into power. One of the countries I'm considering is New Zealand, because there wouldn't be that big of a language barrier and also because I haven't heard of a lot of problems with facism in New Zealand. So I wanted to ask you if my judgement is correct and what the political situation regarding the alt-right is like in New Zealand.

Thank you for reading. I really appreciate your help :)

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[–] waterbogan 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We have facism and an alt-right here, but they are tiny, insignificant and basically present no physical threat whatsoever. What little violence I hear of from them is usually inter group, they tend not to hassle the general public mainly because they'd get smashed if they did. They are neither like nor respected here, and arent likely to attain any actual political power whatsoever. Violent crime and gang associated crime is an issue here though, and that will be far more of a threat to your safety here than the few far-right fuckwits we have here who are frankly regarded as a bit of a joke

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree that they are tiny and harmless. They are quite organised both IRL and online and will be a significant factor in getting National elected in the next election.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't understand how Action Zealandia or Voices For Freedom will get National elected. You might want to look at what these groups believe, it's usually the opposite of what National, Act and NZ First want.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

While I agree our facist and alt-right contingents are rather small, I see the center-right embracing some of their slightly less overtly hate driven values and taking points.

I have similar concerns to OP