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[–] PancitCantot 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How can I de-Google this mdfkn Xiaomi (Redmi Note 11) device? lulz.

[–] FabulousCable3945 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] megane_kun 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aside from convenience, in what ways is this better than the "standard" method of using ADB?

I mean, one of the steps is installing ADB and enabling developer mode on the phone. I guess you don't have to pull up a list of the apps that you want to remove? I wonder if there's anything more to it.

[–] FabulousCable3945 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh they also keep a list of apps that are safe to remove per device manufacturer. If something goes wrong. Open a github issue to warn others about it and so they could update the list.

[–] megane_kun 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that's one of the advantages I see over there (having a list already made for you, which is convenient).

I mean, the biggest advantage this has over the β€œstandard method” is convenience:

  • you don't have to do ADB commands
  • you don't have to keep the list next to your ADB shell
  • you don't have to even go find a list for your phone model

Those three alone that I've listed already covers most of my pain points in the β€œstandard method,” and for me personally, it already makes for a compelling case.

However I was wondering if it does something that isn't possible using ADB. If there's some feature that it is capable of, but ADB isn't capable of, then that'd make for an even more compelling case.


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[–] FabulousCable3945 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the end of the day, it is just a GUI for wrapping ADB commands.

It just makes the deleting and restoring the system apps much easier with just a few clicks, and having list to know which can be safely deleted.

[–] megane_kun 3 points 1 year ago

Alright, got it!β€Œ Thanks for the recommendation.

I think what I'd do is to get this for routine cleanup (after a MIUI update, for example), and then run things with ADB for the others that this tool might have missed.

[–] PancitCantot 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've already used this, and still those removed system apps appeared again after updating the ROM. Walang "gold standard" sa debloater, it's still run its commands through ADB.

[–] FabulousCable3945 3 points 1 year ago

while I did exaggerate the gold standard term, Universal Android Debloater is still good for Non-root phones.

If you really want to remove those system apps, just root your phone. If the apps you're talking about is about Google apps(like Chrome), some of it tends to come back to your phone once you update another google app since they used app dependencies, and if playstore didn't find it then they'll just install once again.

If you are desperate to remove those system apps, just root your phone.

[–] megane_kun 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a similar device (Redmi Note 11 5G) and while I haven't gone full de-google, I've done a bit of removal.

I had to go through a bit of ADB though:

  • Install ADB on my desktop.
  • Enable developer mode on my phone. You may have to make a MI account for this.
  • Connect the phone (already with developer mode enabled) to the desktop (with ADB installed)
  • Run the ADB shell and connect to the phone.
  • Start erasing stuff from the ADB shell.

I've followed a guide like this (please don't take it as a recommendation to follow this particular guide), and a list like this of Xiaomi bloatware (again, not recommending this particular list).

Sorry kung redundant na yang info na yan sa iyo. Good luck, ka-Xiaomi! 🀣

[–] PancitCantot 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I recently removed most Google system apps using ADB, and after updating from MIUI 13 to 14 the other day, those apps appeared again. Haha

[–] megane_kun 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aray! Shit. Di pa ako nag-uupdate from MIUI ko and that's the kind of shit that makes me wary of updating.

Mukhang kailangan mong ulitin yung process ah.

[–] PancitCantot 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] megane_kun 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh hell no!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Maybe this weekend check ko. Mej naka-reserve na ang braincells ko for work. Iilan na lang sila at mukhang overworked na rin.

[–] PancitCantot 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gusto ko na mag Pixel 7A at install calyxOS. lol

[–] megane_kun 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kung may pambili ba eh, why not? Good luck!

Samantalang ako, di ko pa tapos hulugan yung phone ko, kakabili ko lang kasi eh (roughly nine months ago). I thought it'd be a decent phone (and it has decent-enough specs for my usecases), but I never thought I'd struggle so hard to de-bloat and remove ads from its apps.

[–] PancitCantot 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

MIUI EU is decent replacement for bloated MIUI Global ROM, at babalik ako this week after some hiccups I encountered on previous EU ROMs.

And yes, Redmi Note 11 is a decent phone. I have this for a year na.

[–] megane_kun 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hm, thanks for the idea. I'm really not comfortable dealing with replacing ROMS (and especially dealing with custom ROMS), but I'd at least give it a look.

The biggest worry I have in replacing my ROM (from Global to EU) is I'd brick my phone in the process and no means to put it back to the last working config.

[–] PancitCantot 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Be sure to backup your phone's vendor img file first, para incase ma-deadboot o brick, you can revert to Global ROM. I've encountered this multiple times on different Xiaomi devices. It's fun and scary at the same time. Haha.

Ganito ako dati, matakotin sa flashing ROMs.

[–] megane_kun 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure if your response has calmed me down or made me more nervous. Hahaha! πŸ˜…

But thanks! I'll look into it this weekend siguro. To be honest, I kinda want to do this on a smartphone that isn't being used, but I don't have any! Nakakatakot kasi yung magkakalikot sa device na currently mong ginagamit (kinda like doing tests on the production server, lol!)

[–] PancitCantot 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, boy. I only have one smartphone. Most of my data are synced in cloud, and I can plug my SIM to my laptop whenever my smartphone is fucked. Lol

[–] megane_kun 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ayun! I only have a desktop here (and I use it for my work--WFH life), so I don't really have that kind of option.

Anyways, yeah, nothing ventured, nothing gained. I just have to have the time to deal with it, I guess. Hopefully sa weekend I'd have the time to give things a try.


EDIT: Iβ€Œ do have an extra phone here, but it's my old one (Vivo Y53), and due to a strange decision I made, I use it for stuff like GCash and banking. I already have gone a bit of debloating and de-googling there, but I'm not really that comfortable making any more modifications to it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

bricked a phone by removing the default launcher. was confident everything was okay because i was toying around with the new launcher for an hour. deactivated the developer mode. then the screen went blank. rebooted the phone but the screen remains blank. could not recover through adb because of it was no longer in developer mode. good thing it was an old phone.
it was fun though, did it again with another phone. learned my lesson- did not remove the stock launcher and left the developer mode on the second time around.

[–] PancitCantot 2 points 1 year ago

You can still access your phone by rebooting to bootloader. There, you can restore your data using the backup file (not sure kung gagana pa ito sa iilang apps).

[–] LakingNido 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PancitCantot 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, the unofficial LOS for RN11 is abandoned as per checking on XDA, and LOS itself is not de-Googled. It still has Google frameworks.

[–] LakingNido 2 points 1 year ago

aw sayang, ganda pa naman ng lineage. sorry for the outdated info