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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This, for sure. I live in the US and wanted to learn to understand Celsius so I switched my phone to use it. Internalizing a system works where translating/converting does not. I quickly learned that I feel comfortable in temperatures in the 20s. Since I feel comfortable in Fahrenheit temps in the upper 60s to mid 70s I can guess what the conversion is for most temps, but I don't have to do it to understand that I like how 22 C feels.

Similarly, if you're traveling and having to use a foreign currency I prefer to establish an idea in my head of cheap, reasonable, expensive than stopping to convert every price exactly. A "reasonable price" is relative to the item and location, of course, and should also affect my perspective.

Absorbing a new system by this method works fairly easily for temperatures and money, but less so for other measurements. I don't have as fine-tuned a sense of what ounces, pounds, or grams feel like as I do units of temperature. And I am always adding or subtracting 12 to understand time when expressed as 13h and up.

During the brief period when the US was encouraging metric system understanding there were many highway speed limit signs expressed as 55 mph / 88 kph. Every time I need to make that conversion I think of 5/8 because of that sign. And I usually just make guesstimates that work well enough.

I like learning new things. The generation before me in my family turned off their brains long ago and now suffer dementia. I work to keep my mind active. Learning other units of measure is one example.

Finally I'll say that I WISH I could get to a point of understanding languages this way without translation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sadly, language is a bit iffy when it comes to internalizing.

Unless you learn a language when you're a child, and ideally starting before you're ten, you won't get instinctive enough to match a native speaker's. That's just how our brain development works.

There's a special linguistic plasticity which is the language learning instinct that's fully active until we're ten or so and gradually declines and pretty much stops when we're in our early twenties.

What you learn until then is used by the language centers of your brain and is more or less reflexive. You don't need to think about it to use it, like walking.

After that, we can only learn languages intellectuality, which means we do have to think about it and deliberately listen and speak (or read and write obviously) using our prefrontal cortex.

Maybe one day we'll invent a technology or some medical treatment to turn it back on in later life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is called the Critical Period hypothesis, and it's still a controversial area of active research, with many linguists and experiments on each side of the argument, so it's premature to talk about it in absolutes like this.