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At the same time, there are a lot of people, especially in my line of work as a mechanic, where they somehow expect to be able to sit around and not do much actual work and still collect a paycheck at double minimum wage.
Like yes, workers should be paid fairly for their time. But also, workers should be trying to do a good job. Employment is a give and take, and its really hard to find that balance. Working for yourself is a good solution, but you have to deal with a lot more such as taxes and marketing your business and such. Being hired at a bigger business takes all that pressure away to let you just focus on your job.
There is no perfect system, because it relies on both the employer and the employee to not be greedy.
One of those two people is already being greedy so yeah I'm not gonna say a fuckin word about that employee deciding they've had enough exploitation and choosing to do nothing.
This is coming from someone who's worked in food service his whole life. I've seen employees of literally all kinds. Yeah having people who want to work is great. Makes the day much smoother. But I'll never give someone shit for wanting to sit around or do the bare minimum because I would if I could.
Sounds like socialism will be a good solution for this since workers won't have to work so many hours to get their surplus value extracted to make a business profitable. Therefore, with socialism, people will be incentivized to work better since they will work fewer hours. 😊
Sounds like communism will be even better since no one would need money to survive and therefore "profit" wouldn't even be a consideration.
Yeah! Communism is the best economic system!
Double minimum wage? So like what, bust their ass for 14.50? All to make you feel good about your perception of their work? Blow it out your ass.
No, in my area double minimum wage is $30/hr.
Double the minimum wage isn’t really that great in a lot of the US (assuming US here). $15/hr is ok. That’s less than $30k a year before taxes.
In California, double minimum wage is $30/hr, not $15.
Over 90% of america doesn’t live in California and most people mean the federal minimum wage unless otherwise stated.
$30/hr also means very different things in different cities in California.
My point still remains, for $30/hr especially (which is a legal minimum here for mechanics with their own tools), an employee definitely should be showing up to work ready to actually do work and not sit around and collect a paycheck for doing nothing.
If they can do this management is purely stupid or incompetent
Common problem in autoshops, actually.
Well you’re not who I was talking to so let’s find out what their hourly is as well as average rent in the area if you want to compare I guess? You’re talking about your own issues with your coworkers apparently doing nothing, but I wasn’t talking you and have no context.
You’re so concerned about other peoples work, are you their manager?
No, I only manage myself. I am not concerned with other people having nearly non-existent work ethics, I am just disappointed.
If my paycheck makes me go 'meh' why in the hell should my work not say the same?
You'll find no shortage of people willing to take it up the ass with a smile every single day for 100k a year.
Capitalist's malfunction is that they want it both ways though. No money, only work!