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This 100% was said about Skyrim. Bethesda just makes weak RPGs with no stakes or personality.
I don't think it's fair to call Bethesda games RPGs. They're more like environmental looter shooters. And if you take them kind of easy breezy not serious you can have fun. But you're not going to get real roleplay.
You'll find some cool stories, but not roleplay
I so disagree. I think Skyrim, for example, is all about roleplaying but extremely shallow in the RPG mechanics side of things.
I mean to say, the gameplay is shallow, but that shallowness allows casual players to essentially ignore the mechanics and play characters from bandits to farmers or merchants or nomads or whatever they want. It's the purest form of roleplaying and I think that's why Skyrim in particular is still so popular.
That said, my fav is Morrowind because I love stats driven, cronchy RPG mechanics.
You may or may not be right about Skyrim
But 1000% Morrowinds Stat driven cronchy bs was bae (and the best world IMO, God I hated Skyrim from the jump just for that - Funky mushroom land getting around on silt striders to fucking HELL PORTALS to....... Every generic fantasy land ever, dragons and all 🙄)
And they turned Cyrodill from a cool interesting tropical jungle into... Fable 4.
Fr that bothers me to this day. Wtf happened to Bethesda’s unique settings? Nothing coming from the elder scrolls IP has matched Morrowind in that regard and I have no idea why.
Todd Howard is why
Purest form of roleplaying? Have you tried or heard about Kenshi? That game is pure roleplaying, this is action game with a bit of rpg sprinkled
Kenshi is awesome. I agree with you.
They're action rpgs
I'm not sure if everyone's opinion just changed over night, but saying anything bad about Skyrim or Bethesda games used to get you downvoted to hell in casual video game communities, and this is even a Bethesda community.
People praise Skyrim like it's the greatest game ever, like it's the only game they ever played. What happened?
It's mostly people who grew up playing Skyrim who are super positive about it in my experience.
Eh, I mean I grew up playing Skyrim and love it, but I can also admit that that’s nearly all nostalgia and that it’s a staggeringly shallow game.
I wish skyrim was as good as people claim it is.
I liked fallout 3 a lot, and i never looked into fallout 4 before it launched. Like i haven't seen anything about the game, except for the launch trailer before i bought it because i happened to be bored. The game was so bad looking and odd that i closed the game to make sure i didn't download the wrong game, or like some scam like: Foulout 4. I did that twice. The game was unplayable and ass ugly. I know they patched a lot of things but the game is just not good, and giving it a 10/10 is insulting to every other video game.
I think Bethesda has enough ass kissing fans who praise their games. Like i wasn't hopeful for starfield at all, but i still had that thing in the bqck of my brain that thought: but what if it's really good. But no, it's optimized badly it looks like modded skyrim, nothing seem to have consequences, the freedom to do whatever you want, absolutely lifeless npc's. They had npc's in all their games but they never got better, but it's fine, best game ever 10/10 can't wait for the next one.
The gameplay in Fallout 4 was better than 3 and NV imo. But Fallout 3 still had the Fallout freedom and charm, which I feel was lost in the others. The gameplay just sucked ass, and even the NPCs from 1998 provided better immersion.
I think 90% of Fallout fans never played the first two.
Instead of hiring 30+ studios to do their work, they should've hired one good studio and ditched their ancient poop engine 15 years ago.
Yeah. I love fallout 1 and 2, and NV is... fine. But at this point, I don't think I'm a 'fallout fan', since I've just had zero interest in the series after hating 3 and 4.
And same thing with elder scrolls, and Morrowind. I just don't like their modern formula, at all.