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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Came here to say this.

Also I noticed people complaining about noise - but my apartment holds noise in really well. I leave my tv on blast and when I stand outside I can't hear it even though there is a window open.

[–] CosmicCleric 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also I noticed people complaining about noise - but my apartment holds noise in really well. I leave my tv on blast and when I stand outside I can’t hear it even though there is a window open.

Mine's the opposite.

I can tell when my neighbor is on his treadmill, or when my other neighbors are having sex (and they're not even vocalizing much).

Just depends on the property, and how well it was built.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i invite you to use the word "house" or "apartment" or "dwelling" or "land" instead of "property" in these contexts, to stop doing free PR work for exploitative real estate investors

[–] CosmicCleric 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i invite you to use the word “house” or “apartment” or “dwelling” or “land” instead of “property” in these contexts,

I used to word property as a generic term for any of the types of property one could live in, that you listed.

I'm specifically making the point that it doesn't matter if it's a house, or a condo, or an apartment, it's how well the structure is built that depends on the noise you hear from the adjoining spaces that other people live in.

to stop doing free PR work for exploitative real estate investors

Not everything is a conspiracy, dude/dudette.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how is "property" any more generic than "home" or "dwelling"? and do you not see any additional meanings, beyond "place to live", highlighted in calling it "property"?

[–] CosmicCleric 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They are all real estate properties. You rent or purchase a property. When that word is used for where a person lives long-term it's not potentially meant to denote ownership, but just a place of residence that they spend some of their money to do so.

Honestly not purposely trying to stick a finger in someone's eye over this, that's just the generic term for a place that people live in/at.

I'll tell you what though, next time I'll try to remember the use the word 'residence' instead, though that's not completely accurate either, because somebody could just be living at a friend's place and not spending any money to do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

thanks for the polite and thoughtful response 💖

I'm sure in the scheme of the world's problems it's a small thing, but I really think it'll be easier to find stable housing for everyone who wants it if we can stop seeing it as primarily a marketable possession 🙏

[–] CosmicCleric 2 points 1 year ago

I’m sure in the scheme of the world’s problems it’s a small thing, but I really think it’ll be easier to find stable housing for everyone who wants it if we can stop seeing it as primarily a marketable possession

A safe and happy living environment for every human being is no small thing, and a worthy goal to strive for.

[–] duffman 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I lived in an apartment for 3 months and had to tip toe as quietly as humanly possible after 6pm or the person downstairs would bang on the ceiling. And I'm alreat a really quiet person...

A lot of apartments aren't exactly modern. And it doesn't help that people are so eager to call these impractical living spaces "historical".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I hate "historical" building bullshit. I went to go stay in Seattle for a day and a half so I got a room for the night and then the hotel calls me to let me know it's a historical building so they don't have air conditioning.

This was the middle of August so of course I'm like, why did you call me to tell me this instead of listing it on your site you psychos? And the bitch bragged to me about working at a different hotel that charges $600 a room with NO air conditioning.

I couldn't cancel cause they didn't tell me until last minute either.