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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So in other words, you don't want s civil society, you want anarchy with vendettas and vigilantes because there is no way that could go wrong. There is no way that anyone would abuse that, and no way that anyone innocent would become victim of your system, right? RIGHT?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A civil society doesn't let women be gang raped, cooked alive then chopped into pieces.

I'm suggesting that maybe they need gangs of women doling out the same kind of attacks on the men that roam around attacking women. It might make men think twice about attacks.

This is not a good thing to do but in the face of a society that seems to care very little about justice for women, it doesn't really seem crazy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Random acts of violence aren't prevented by more random acts of violence. All it does is increasingly normalise it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, not entirely. A civil society will try to educate people to not commit criminal acts. It will punish criminal acts. It can't, however, stop criminal acts with 100% accuracy. No system can. Neither can your "ideas"

What you propose though is just have groups of women go out and straight up murder random innocent men. That doesn't sound great, it sounds terrible. It has nothing to do with justice, it's purely about revenge.

Now I'll happily agree that Indian societal culture is fucked up badly. Castes and treatment of women are just two of the issues and anytime gang rapes come up, you know it's India or Hindus and that really shows it's a cultural issue. My wife and I also have multiple personal experiences with Indians (Muslims too, btw) where it's always them causing any issues.

So having said all that: I think the solution lies in restructuring their cultures. Their boys need to be taught what is right and wrong and right now they're being taught the wrong thing. I know from personal experience that in a number of countries Muslim boys are taught that western women are whores and that you can do pretty much anything you like to them, as long as you make sure you don't get caught. I imagine boys in indea having a somewhat similar teaching. THAT is what need to change, but seeing as widespread as it is, good luck with that.

It reminds me of this travel show video where two blonde girls had to go to some village in India and when they arrived there were hundreds of men waiting for them, pushing them, taking forced selfies with them, until they ran off back in the train and left. It was fucking creepy.

Change the culture, don't assault random innocent men.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with what you are saying but I didn't ever say to attack random innocent men. I said groups of women should attack the men that attack and rape lone women. It's not like these type of men only ever attack one woman, they are likely repeat offenders known to the community but possibly protected by money, class or connections and should be dealt with illegally as there is no legal justice that can deal with them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And how do you propose they identify these men?

You do understand that we ha r a system set up for this already in every country? It's called the justice system? They are supposed to have rules for this. If that isn't working then adjust that system.

Having vigilantes roam the street is a recipe for disaster that guaranteed will end with a lot of innocent victims because lynchings always end up with innocent victims