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In a study recently published in the journal Patterns, researchers demonstrate that computer algorithms often used to identify AI-generated text frequently falsely label articles written by non-native language speakers as being created by artificial intelligence. The researchers warn that the unreliable performance of these AI text-detection programs could adversely affect many individuals, including students and job applicants.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Most AI-generated texts are grammatically perfect. That's not a characteristic of non-native speakers.

[–] AsimovsRobot 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of non-native speakers can show higher command of the language, because they took the time to study its rules. Just look at how people type on social media.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I must be one of the lazy ones who didn't take enough time to study English grammar. (͡•_ ͡• )

Yeah I get your point, many non-natives pay more attention to grammar when they write.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

According to the article grammatical errors are not the reason. The reason is that AI uses simpler vocabulary to mimic a regular conversation of average people.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Completely disagree - a lot of non-native speakers have excellent grasp of grammar, precisely because they have learnt the rules. Native speakers rely on stuff sounding right, rather than necessarily knowing the rules. But following grammatical rules rigidly is exactly what I would expect both from a genAI and a non-native speaker (as well as avoiding figurative speech and idioms).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Sorry I might have overly generalised based on my personal experience. I have been a non-native English speaker for over 30 years, and I keep making grammatical mistakes.

Everyone is different and it depends heavily on how the person learned/acquired the language.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As a non native am keenly aware of every mistake i make. Sometimes, i fix the same text 4 or five times in row.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I count 4 mistakes. Conclusion: AI generated

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where ? You got me anxious about my writing skill dude...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not OC but you forgot the “I” before “am”. I should be capitalized twice. It should say in a row. It’s also a bit weird that you used 4 and then five. Plus it really should be non-native I guess. And since you didn’t specify what you aren’t native to/of, it can only be assumed at this point that you are not a native human. The reason for that? Definitely a bot.

Also honestly don’t worry about any minor errors in your writing. Especially on the internet. Just blame autocorrect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't specify what I'am not native to because it can be understood from the context. Capitalizing the 'I' feels weird and I juste saw the "in a row" mistake.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In English, I is always capitalized when referring to the self. The “not specifying” comment was me making a joke and calling you a bot. It was just tying the context of the post into my comment.

I usually see mistakes in comments as being caused by crappy phone keyboards, as mine seems to be extra trash recently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, phone keyboards do be really crappy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol. No big deal. It's the sort of thing your eyes skip over when checking your grammar.

As a non native am keenly aware of every mistake i make. Sometimes, i fix the same text 4 or five times in row.

Should be

As a non native I'm keenly aware of every mistake I make. Sometimes, I fix the same text 4 or five times in a row.

Two of the mistakes were just capitalization of 'I'. You should probably also use either digits or spelling for both numbers, not a mix.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the correction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a non native am keenly aware of every mistake i make. Sometimes, i fix the same text 4 or five times in row.

As a non-native, I am keenly aware of every mistake I make. Sometimes, I fix the same text 4 or five times in row.

FTFY.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hey just to give some validation, I'm an esl teacher and this doesn't stick out as non-native at all. They're all just taking the piss, correcting anything they can find for the joke of it.

maybe saying "am" instead of "I am" but that's kinda just meme speech right

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's really nice of you. Thanks !

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have been using ChatGPT to proofread most of my formal written communications.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm a college instructor and encourage my students to use ChatGPT this way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

"This guy is definitely AI."