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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] Clent 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What people are against teenagers riding e-bikes?

How do they feel about electric scooters?

I'm going to need to see the overlap between people who hate this and people who hate bikers in general.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

There was a nyt article a while back about the increased incidence of teenagers being seriously harmed while riding ebikes. The gist of it was with the class 3 bike they were spending more time at higher speeds, on unsafe roads, and making the usual poor teenager decisions.

I didn't come away from the article feeling like teenagers shouldn't get ebikes, but that there needs to be education about safe ridership. When you start consistently going as fast as a motorcycle, you need to start taking safety gear seriously.

[–] vector_zero 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What people are against teenagers riding e-bikes?

Me. I've seen too many kids nearly knocking people over, flying through busy intersections without looking, tearing around blind corners, and generally terrorizing my neighborhood. They're the perfect combination of immature and fast.

How do they feel about electric scooters?

Meh, as long as they're not blowing through intersections and almost causing accidents, they're okay.

overlap between people who hate this and people who hate bikers in general.

Probably a very big overlap, but at least normal bicycles aren't as efficient at facilitating teen idiocy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously irresponsible riding should be discouraged or penalized. But imagine the same people driving cars and you’ll see why we don’t want to discourage e-bikes.

[–] vector_zero 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Though the same people aren't driving, because they're well below the age of 16 and very clearly have no concept of rules of the road, right of way, and common sense

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Some are, and the others may be soon, unless there are alternatives. Such as e-bikes.

And if they can’t, their parents may drive them around. Even if we assume their parents are safe drivers, this probably poses more of a public safety risk than a teen on an e-bike because of the inherent dangers of cars, or worse, SUVs and trucks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Clent 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes.

Bikers are out there running drugs and murdering people, cyclists are riding around cities doing their grocery shopping.

[–] Clent 2 points 1 year ago

That's your head cannon, not mine.