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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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The Human Ecology of Overshoot: Why a Major ‘Population Correction’ Is Inevitable (www.mdpi.com)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

Bullshit. Overpopulation is a neocolonialist myth about why developed countries get to keep doing the same thing and mid&low-income countries have to cut emissions while somehow also fulfilling their debt obligations to the high income countries by being their slaves.

The overconsumption of high income countries is mainly driven by their own wealth inequality & the sheer greed of every industry not population either.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I completely agree.

For those disagreeing, let's use CO2 emissions as a proxy for resource consumption. CO2 emissions per capita per year is 38.2 metric tons in Qatar, while it's 0.1 metric tons in Uganda (as of 2018 - source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita). That means one person in Qatar (pop: 2.8 million) consumes as many resources as 382 people in Uganda (pop: 48 million). By the way, for the US, that figure on the same list is 16.1 metric tons, so one person in the US consumes as much as 161 people in Uganda (pop: 333 million).

How could anyone with a straight face say that "overpopulation" is the problem? That's a straight up genocidal way to think about the issue of resource overshoot.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

They don't care about real numbers. They want the numbers they made up

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