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Another week, another discussion thread for the new episode. What did y'all think? Lots of opinions last week, not all of them good

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[–] DoctorTYVM 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

For me, this raises a lot of questions. Sabine is force sensitive now? Does this mean anyone could be a Jedi? Why are there so many humans in this galaxy? How was it so easy to set up the republic after the fall of the Empire? There's a story here but I'm not sure if this is telling the right one with right crew. This isn't bad, it just feels like missed potential.

But nice to see Mom Mothma in another series.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What Ahsoka said -- the Force resides in all living beings -- is more akin to Empire Strikes Back Yoda's statements. Some people naturally have more ability to access it than others.

The implication of what Huyang says is that no one would have bothered taking Sabine to the Jedi Temple to begin training. She has minimal natural ability with the Force. Ahsoka, in a way, is working with what she has.

Perhaps it was because Sabine inherited Ezra's saber, so that's why Ahsoka began her training. She has a light saber, may as well teach her how to use it properly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She had partial Saber training from Kanan when she held the Dark Sabre remember.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Dark Saber training from Kanan explicitly showed her not having Force powers. Yes, there was considerable emotional energy tied up wit the Dark Saber, and going with that energy, but not Force powers. Particularly, she used Mandalorian tricks against Kanan (and later on against Gar Saxon) and didn't deflect blaster bolts with the saber.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's been made pretty clear between Andor and Ashoka that the Old Republic, the Empire, and the New Republic are all essentially the same bureaucracy at their cores, just with different leadership and priorities at the top.

It's really showing the banality of evil...people continue to do their jobs and following orders of whoever the current bosses are. By and large, they can't directly see whether their own actions are used for good or evil, the paperwork must continue to flow regardless.

That's why there isn't a ton of chaos when one galactic government supplants the next. Setting up an all-new galaxy-spanning bureaucracy is extremely hard, why not just do some loyalty oaths and let the existing machinery keep on chugging along.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 2 points 1 year ago

Even then, to Joe in a job, what is the effect of a galactic government change? It's got to trickle through sector, to regional, to planetary, to sub-planetary, to local governments.

Perhaps some edicts would come into effect quickly, but even then we've seen the wide range of policies throughout the galaxy already; on things like slavery and narcotics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the ~~spice~~ paperwork must ~~continue to~~ flow

Yes, let the paperwork flow through you, feel it's power

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sabine was always force sensitive. She was Luke's age at the end of Rebels and Luke didn't show powers until then.

[–] DoctorTYVM 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sure he did, he talked about shooting womprats like it was no problem but everyone else thought that kind of shot was impossible even for a computer.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sabine has some exceptional moments too that likely were a use of the Force but most didn't notice. That's common.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Sabine has the exceptional ability to snatch defeat from certain victory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Also, from flying probably sub orbital shuttles once in a while, to flying high performance combat craft in an actual battle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sabine does some pretty amazing things in Rebels. And she also doesn't have to be as Force sensitive as Luke or Anakin, not every Jedi was. Obi Wan was considered a late bloomer.

I had objections about Sabine being a Jedi as well, but I think they're explaining it pretty well. Talent is a factor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah. The force is in everyone. Some are just better at it than others. And some put in more effort into honing their skills because they were adopted by the Jedi Order.

Is Sabine force sensitive? Not very. Can she wield the force and become a Jedi? Yes, but it’ll be harder for her than others.

Was Chirrut force sensitive? Not very, but he could sense some people around him and the force would guide his fighting.

Was Finn force sensitive? Yes, but we’ll have to wait and see how much. Hopefully lots and we get to see Jedi Knight Finn.