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Antiwork

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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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This server is no longer working, and we had to move.

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Date Created: June 21, 2023

Library copied from reddit:
The Anti-Work Library 📚
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Start here! These are probably the most talked-about essays on the topic.

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1. Server Main Rules

The main rules of the server will be enforced stringently. https://lemmy.world/

2. No spam or reposts + limit off topic comments

Spamming posts will be removed. Reposts will be removed with the exception of a repost becoming the main hub for discussion on that topic.

Off topic comments that do not pertain to the post at hand may be removed if it is deemed they contribute nothing and/or foster hostility at users. This mostly applies to political and religious debate, but can be applied to other things at the mod’s discretion.

3. Post must have Antiwork/ Work Reform explicitly involved

Post must have Antiwork/Work Reform explicitly involved in some capacity. This can be talking about antiwork, work reform, laws, and ext.

4. Educate don’t attack

No mocking, demeaning, flamebaiting, purposeful antagonizing, trolling, hateful language, false accusation or allegation, or backseat moderating is allowed. Don’t resort to ad hominem attacks against another user or insult other people, examples of violations would be going after the person rather than the stance they take.

If we feel the comment is uncalled for we will remove it. Stay civil and there won’t be problems.

5. No Advertising

Under no circumstance are you allowed to promote or advertise any product or service

6. No factually misleading informationContent that makes claims or implications that can be proven false or misleading will be removed.

7. Headlines

If the title of the post isn’t an original title of the article then the first thing in the body of the post should be an original title written in this format “Original title: {title here}”.

8. Staff Discretion

Staff can take disciplinary action on offenses not listed in the rules when a community member's actions or general conduct creates a negative experience for another player and/or the community.

It is impossible to list every example or variation of the rules. It is also impossible to word everything perfectly. Players are expected to understand the intent of the rules and not attempt to "toe the line" or use loopholes to get around the intent of the rule.


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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The longer I live, the more often I learn that so called self-made geniuses like Bill Gates didn't even do the thing they're known for, and none of them did any of it alone.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Bill Gates at least can code. His contributions to Microsoft were mostly being a cutthroat businessman, but he can code, and did, in particular the MS Basic runtime. It's all fuzzy but I'd put him at that stage where you can code, but look at your colleagues and realise that you probably shouldn't. The not so fabled 1x developer. Not entirely rarely well-suited both as manager and QA because they understand enough to be helpful but, ego permitting, seeing they have no talent, don't get their creative instincts tied up with actually writing code.

Steve Jobs, OTOH...

[–] phoneymouse 27 points 1 year ago

Bill Gates main contribution was having is mommy get him a deal to provide an OS to IBM.

Gates didn’t have an OS, so he bought DOS from another company and repackaged it as his own to licensed it to IBM.

[–] BitOneZero 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Steve Jobs main claim was that visual design and walling people into marriage of software + hardware as a package was important. And based on the loyalty, profits, he seemed to have focused on the right thing.

As quick as Apple could, they went away from the kit Apple I into expensive unique-looking systems. The Lisa being US$9,995 (equivalent to well over $30,000 in 2023)... NeXT was pretty much the same high-end vision.

Bill Gates bailing out Apple so there could be two main companies like Pepsi and Coke, I really don't get why people don't criticize that. Microsoft was ahead in the Smartphone area long before the iPhone, if they had not bailed out Apple...

[–] phoneymouse 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Microsoft hadn’t bailed out Apple, your phone would still feature a start menu.

[–] dx1 9 points 1 year ago

You mean the app drawer?

[–] time_lord 2 points 1 year ago

Bill Gates bailing out Apple so there could be two main companies like Pepsi and Coke, I really don’t get why people don’t criticize that.

Because in the late 90's, the DoJ was going after Microsoft for anti-trust issues. Had Apple closed up, Microsoft would have been a monopoly with pre-existing anti-trust concerns, and there's no way in hell that Microsoft wouldn't have gotten split up.

A lof of the complaints that people had about Microsoft software - like how there wasn't anything comparable to the iLife suite - came down to MS execs being unwilling to greenlight for fear of the DoJ splitting MS up. That's why the Zune software was different from Windows Media Player, Photos wouldn't backup to SkyDrive by default, and tons more that I can't remember from 15 years ago.

[–] petersr 1 points 1 year ago

Elon Musk can also code - but I don't know if he was actually any good. But supposedly he was quite fast and hardworking back when he worked on Zip2 (and perhaps also PayPal). But it was very likely spaghetti code.

[–] Kerred 9 points 1 year ago

This applies to pretty much every group, like the Nobel Prize.

I guess Satoru Iwara might be an exception where he just fixed struggling games like Earthbound by himself 😄

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Listen to the behind the bastards podcast episode on him. The go into some depth on how there's really no such thing as a "self made billionaire".