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/c/StarWars: A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....

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I gave episodes 1 & 2 a B- primarily for pacing issues.

Episode 3 resolved my pacing concerns (dialogue seemed to move at a better pace), and the characterization of Hera (the bit we got of her) seemed more consistent with my expectations.

Most importantly, this episode was fun. I enjoyed the interactions between Ahsoka, Sabine, and Huyang. The dynamics of the three are interesting, and Huyang’s pessimism in regards to Sabine’s training gives Ahsoka a chance to be more optimistic than we saw in her interactions with Hera. It’s a good dynamic, and I look forward to seeing it play out further.

Less play with Baylan than I would have liked, but overall I think episode 3 exceeded the expectations I had coming out of the first two episodes.

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[–] FuglyDuck 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Has there been any explanation why in rebels nobody mentioned Sabine being force sensitive and suddenly, Ahsoka had her as an apprentice and has her as an apprentice again?

I remember Kanan and Ezra teaching her to wield the dark saber, for example, but no mention of force sensitivity.

It would also seem strange to pick up Ezra as an apprentice having been with Sabine for as long as kanan had.

[–] TheRealKuni 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they’ve sufficiently alluded that Ahsoka thinks it’s worth training those with the discipline required but who may lack the talent.

The Jedi Order took those with the talent and tried to teach them discipline. Ahsoka wants to take someone with discipline and teach her to hear and wield the Force.

Theoretically it should be possible. Everyone has the Force, it suffuses all life in the galaxy. But not everyone has the inborn talent that the Jedi sought out.

If you’ve read the Wheel of Time series, think of this as training women who wouldn’t channel on their own but could still learn.

[–] FuglyDuck 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue I see here is that the jedi's perception of the Force is fundamentally a paradigm. The reason Luke was too old, the reason the Jedi Order never took in adults for training was because it's hard to instill that paradigm into people who already have an established paradigm of their own. It's very likely the same mental discipline necessary to wield the Force is the very reason that Mandalorian Jedi are so rare. (coupled, of course, with just how hard it would be to steal mandalorian babies to brain wash them...)

according the Jedi dogma... the Force flows through everything, but not everything is aware of it. The rigid discipline of the mandalorians... if there is a Force Tradition there, then their perceptions are different. the Jedi putting everyone and everything on a spectrum (jedi=light, sith=dark. Other bastards=dark, stuff we tolerate = gray) assumes everyone is perceiving the Force in the same way- or is asking the same questions about the Force.

[–] TheRealKuni 2 points 1 year ago

Important to note, Ahsoka does specifically say she isn’t training her to be a Jedi, but to be herself. I doubt any Force skills she gains will be particularly powerful, but I suspect they’ll be useful combined with what she knows already.

[–] LifeInOregon 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not as of yet. As far as I can tell, everything regarding her training is a “between the series” thing. I do appreciate that they’re making very clear that she isn’t adept or particularly sensitive. I’m interested in seeing if they give us a “why” to Ahsoka training her.

[–] FuglyDuck 2 points 1 year ago

They did have a toss-away line about “since [the old republic] it’s hard to find anyone [strong enough to traine]”…. Said to Hera…. Whose son is probably force sensitive…

[–] Roninaoshi 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TikTok post with the clip where Kanan explaining to Hera. Episode 3 Ashoka even uses the same wording as Kanan.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8YCj6xA/

[–] LifeInOregon 2 points 1 year ago

Ah! Thank you! I’d forgotten all about this.