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Lemmyshitpost community closed until further notice (self.lemmyworld)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin to c/lemmyworld

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Hello everyone,

We unfortunately have to close the !lemmyshitpost community for the time being. We have been fighting the CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts all day but there is nothing we can do because they will just post from another instance since we changed our registration policy.

We keep working on a solution, we have a few things in the works but that won't help us now.

Thank you for your understanding and apologies to our users, moderators and admins of other instances who had to deal with this.

Edit: @[email protected] the moderator of the affected community made a post apologizing for what happened. But this could not be stopped even with 10 moderators. And if it wasn't his community it would have been another one. And it is clear this could happen on any instance.

But we will not give up. We are lucky to have a very dedicated team and we can hopefully make an announcement about what's next very soon.

Edit 2: removed that bit about the moderator tools. That came out a bit harsher than how we meant it. It's been a long day and having to deal with this kind of stuff got some of us a bit salty to say the least. Remember we also had to deal with people posting scat not too long ago so this isn't the first time we felt helpless. Anyway, I hope we can announce something more positive soon.

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[–] Whitehat93875 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A person who is attracted to children is an evil and disgusting person, someone being a pedophile isn't just "liking something", they are a monster.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People spreading CSAM are beyond terrible, but I don't agree with this generalization. Pedophiles don't choose to be pedophiles, so as long as they control themselves and avoid harming anyone, I don't like labelling them as evil monsters.

[–] Whitehat93875 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, fair enough. I wasn't considering those people since they'll never really be labelled pedophiles due to hiding their mental illness from the world (only really disclosing it to mental health professionals if ever) and never acting on it. It's the actions committed or fantasies endorsed that differentiate someone from merely being mentally ill or a monster.

Disclaimer: Would like to say, it is valid for me or anyone else to say pedophiles are mentally ill but it is not valid to say that gay people are mentally ill, homosexuality is a legitimate sexual orientation because people pursuing homosexual attractions with other consenting adults does not harm others, (this is not debatable and I WILL report any homophobic arguments I see popping up as a result here) however pedophilia is not like this at all because anyone who pursues it will cause harm because children cannot consent and therefore these interactions are harmful to them and anyone involved, which is why it is a mental illness (again this is also not debatable, anything that causes harm to others by acting on it is not a valid orientation but a mental illness, same thing goes for rapists).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn’t considering those people since they’ll never really be labelled pedophiles due to hiding their mental illness from the world (only really disclosing it to mental health professionals if ever) and never acting on it.

I guess this is also the difference between getting caught or not. To me, rapist that is never caught is still a rapist even if they are never labelled as such, so a pedophile that hides it forever successfully is still a pedophile.

Disclaimer

Yes agreed.

[–] Whitehat93875 2 points 1 year ago

I guess this is also the difference between getting caught or not. To me, rapist that is never caught is still a rapist even if they are never labelled as such, so a pedophile that hides it forever successfully is still a pedophile.

Agreed. If they did it but hid it and never were publicly labeled as a pedophile they are still a pedophile because of their actions and intentions, even if they were never caught and/or cancelled/convicted for it.

[+] jarfil -16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] Whitehat93875 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is a serious problem we are discussing, please don't use this as an opportunity to inject bad-faith arguments.

Edit: Wow your post history is a lot of the same garbage, there is no point in attempting to reason with you, you seem to be defending the act of CSAM or just trolling (really awful and severe trolling I might add, CSAM isn't something to joke or troll about).

[+] jarfil -12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] Whitehat93875 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ah I see what's going on, you're salty that they closed the shitposting community so you're trolling here, going so far as to compare gays and jews to pedophillia (which is extremely bigoted and incorrect) or downplay the horrific acts that led to the closing of that community and registrations to protect the rest of the Instance's well being.

Also I'd appreciate it if you didn't edit what I said when quoting me, thanks.

[+] jarfil -8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing you say matters, because you're defending pedophiles. Whoops.

[–] Whitehat93875 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Amazing, you think that being against pedophiles makes someone a bigot, do you think the same applies to being against Nazis as well? Paradox of tolerance much?

There's a very clear difference between the arguments you cited and pedophilia, which is that pedophilia causes physical and psychological harm to the child who is the victim and also is extremely psychologically harmful to the people who witness such event or the abuse material from it. I don't think you realize how severe this is or you wouldn't be trying to defend such heinous acts right now.