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https://gizmodo.com/google-s-pixel-8-sim-slot-esim-only-iphone-1850759671

What happened to daring to be different? What happened to having options? What happened to creativity?

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[–] couragethebravedog -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It seems like the people that left Reddit for lemmy are mostly super biased in some way and highly argumentative. No one here is willing to have a discussion and recognize valid points from the other person, even if your opinion differs.

[–] dog_ 3 points 1 year ago

I recognize valid points. I just don't agree with them.

[–] Prethoryn 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When it comes to this change I have personally not seen a valid point. The argument is being compared to the loss of battery swapping. These are not comparable in anyway is the issue. If you want to argue that you should be able to swap batteries in phones then I agree you should be able to.

However, eSIM versus physical SIM is an actual security advantage and a good change and the methods we will use to transfer them is all that will be different. The podcast transcript above is a good source for understanding why this is fundamentally different. Losing the ability to swap a battery sucks. However, there will be ways to swap a SIM while still keeping the end user safe and honestly even safer and it doesn't change how a SIM functions for your use of the phone. You could still swap a battery and an eSIM would literally not make a difference. The point is that you are not losing anything with no physical SIM your freedom to what you want with your phone hasn't changed in the same way that you can't replace your own battery because and eSIM can't be stolen or lost the same way a physical SIM.

I think Lemmy users are absolutely far more biased than they think and I have leaned in the few months I have been here that often times they just stick their way of thinking to something without even asking why this kind of change could be a good thing.

I have also found that Lemmy users don't know shit about security and privacy like they think they do. Lemmy as an app being the biggest example.

[–] dog_ 4 points 1 year ago

I know I'm biased when it comes to a lot of things, but I have devices that can never support eSIM and as those devices could be used as a device if my main phone ever breaks, I'd be SOL if I had an eSIM. Sure, you want to keep them safe. Why not just put the majority of phone users on eSIM and have the SIM card for people who would rather have that instead?

[–] couragethebravedog -1 points 1 year ago

I 100% agree with you on eSim usage. Like you said, the only thing that changes for the user is how we transfer the SIM to the new device. But we also get the added benefit of better security. I love darknet diaries btw. Anyone that works in cyber or is considering a career in it should check it out for sure.

[–] DrHeckel 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Welcome to the Internet bucko!

[–] couragethebravedog 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty crazy you can have more meaningful conversations in forums on the dark web than here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] couragethebravedog 1 points 1 year ago

Dread, want another one?