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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We aren’t being factual because this is just arguing about a framing. In my framing, it’s too soon to call it failure. In your framing, it already failed. I think you do have a point there, our negotiations broke down earlier. I just think it’s still salvageable.

I do think it’s pretty strange to think that the government is literally not trying to win and the goal is to fuck with people. Sounds like conspiracy theory thinking. People of power don’t generally go about fucking things up without personal gains in sight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said the goal is to fuck with people, I said it's a political stunt. Go argue with your strawman elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but the Canadian government is sure as hell trying to make the Canadian people the losers here

I really can't interpret this in any other way, but I guess it goes to show how framing is hard to argue about

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

nobody is trying to win, but the Canadian government is sure as hell trying to make the Canadian people the losers here.

It's an antithesis, a rhetorical device.

Making Canadians the losers doesn't mean the sole intention is to fuck with people. I've already said it's a political stunt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for clarifying. More of an exaggeration than antithesis, but now I get it.