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My bad if I wrote it vaguely, I meant that this instance is good in terms of generally being federated by other instances and having minimal defederations from our end.
I was hoping for some general discussion on the topic since a lot of people are here from reddit. Reddit had a pretty strong bias against anything right wing, both in terms of community opinions, and in terms of admin actions, and I wanted to see other people's opinions on if lemmy was heading in the same direction to effectively be the exact same shit as reddit, just different management. We definitely aren't there yet, but given the general way things are going here, I wouldn't be surprised if we got there within a year or two.
The reason I think it merits discussion is that I find the tendency towards online echo chambers to be a troubling direction for the internet, and I hoped that federated spaces could alleviate the issue to some extent. Like yeah, I can always just hop between places like this and exploding heads, but hopping between opposing echo chambers isn't exactly good discussion.
Unless we're operating under an extremely broad definition of greavance politics such that anything anyone expresses dissent towards counts, I wouldn't generally consider my comments to be greavance politics, at least any more than what my counterparts on the left post 24/7 on this instance. And personally, I don't see any need to censor myself to appease people unwilling to do the same.
I'm on sites like this primarily for my own personal enjoyment, so when someone is actually interested in having genuine discussion, I'm all for it. But I'm not here to be a teacher or whatever, so when all the worthless rats crawl out of the woodwork to spam "muh fascism" or whatever other buzzwords they've been fed by CNN, take your pick from almost every other comment in this post, I have no interest in trying to reason them out of a position that wasn't reached through reason. Because frankly, the last thing I want is for social media to feel like a job.
Anyways hope you are having a good day. I was just confused on the EH being more federated statement and trying to sort of stand up for you. Echo chamber = bad.
I mean yeah, but not particularly as a first choice. Reddit has long been hostile to the right, and frequently would ban users and communities that didn't fall in line with the approved narrative, and reddit was really the major platform where most people went for content in that part of social media, so alternatives were naturally people who had a reason to not be on reddit, which up until this month and the api disaster, was almost exclusively just being right wing.
Sorry, this sentence doesn't parse for me. Like, I get all the words, but they don't come together to one coherent meaning when I read it. Can you rephrase?
And how often would you personally be voting for right wing candidates if this happened? Would you be out campaigning for DeSantis if he focused his efforts on trying to purge wrong think from the party? If not, it just seems stupid to intentionally burn bridges with voters at the behest of people who oppose the right regardless.
As far as I can recall, all my participation here has been pretty solidly on topic and relevant to the post at hand. Like yeah, there's plenty of people on both sides who do this shit and it's annoying as hell, but it's hardly in either of our control so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I don't really know I miss reddit when it wasn't filled with policies and weird flame wars. I mostly went on reddit to read crazy people like the gangstalking reddit or weird obscure drug communities, or the qtards in tga before they got banned for posting Csam(to save the children...) and NCD after the war started... Isn't spez a libertarian who lives in a missile silo?(living the dream...) Really don't have much to say on reddit politics outside of it's annoying and unavoidable. I never even had a verified reddit account I only used the account for lurking private communities.
example of a troll and probably not a real person would be theblackconservitive user on this server. People like that are annoying as hell. I'm pretty sure he's not American black or a conservative and never voted for Trump. Just here to sow division as part of some fun global psyop. Pretty sure you are a real person with original thoughts etc...
I used to primary with the Republicans up until trump steered the party off a cliff. Before that I was a pretty solid libertarian or Republican voter in general elections. Usually picked the "best person" like Gary Johnson in 2016... But being constantly called a far leftists when I have any bad think made me decide not to associate with the authoritarian party... Honestly the whole field of them currently are bootlickers and grifters it would be interesting(funny) if I didn't have to live here and it didn't directly impact my life. I don't really hold any party in high regard currently... if anything the last few years helped me find solidarity with anti authoritarian people both left and right, people generally have the same end goals and argue over the starting line. The Koch brothers really did a number to the gold and black...
Remember "take the guns first due process later" = strong on protecting gun rights 😂. The double think is weird and I'm sure I also do it like every human.
I really don't know if it's spez who really pushed it to be shit, or any of the other people who have some power at reddit, but they've been pushing discourse solidly leftward for a while now. They still have to pretend to be at least vaguely neutral to prevent reddit (as a company) from nosediving, but they've gradually been using the rules as a weapon against the right through uneven enforcement. Remember, r/nonewnormal was banned because users also sometimes participated on other subreddits (ie the natural way people use reddit), and this was considered brigading. On the other hand, subreddits literally dedicated to nothing but brigading like r/subredditdrama get by with simply saying "don't brigade" while their users do it constantly.
I might just be an extremely complex network of bots. Beep boop
Thats fair. The reason I asked is because the overwhelming majority of the people I find talking about how this or that group needs to clean house would never have voted for them anyway, and it's just an excuse to avoid discussing policy.
Personally, I treat voting as a strategic thing. I don't particularly care who I'm voting for most of the time, or what they believe, but mostly just how they're going to cast their votes in congress or how far they'll abuse executive powers. Not particularly a fan of either big party, but at least the Republicans have been getting a few things right recently, primarily with court appointments and reliably killing basically everything in congress
honestly I kind of used reddit for my own stuff I ignored most of it. Nnn was where tga went after they got banned it was less fun to read so I didn't keep up. TGA was just so insane even the .win for them and 8koon seem tame with less insane rambling. The main draw to reddit was insane rambling for me. And tech/obscure drug communities(and even those attracted bitching about culture war near the end of my time) or went totally private. I'm (gasp) pro-modernia vaccine; The only one that worked as advertised... The nnn people (and everyone else) dragged covid on so much longer than needed. It should of never even gotten to the point it was a pandemic or endemic. It's fucking sars not some magic new thing. The media reporting didn't help. The whole situation is/was a mess...
beep bop be nice 😂🙂😂 pretty sure you are a red blooded American. You actually responded to mod actions and don't just end up posting porn or whatever to try to get banned... On that I'm hyped to not be a mod starting Friday when I hand things over to the community... Being a mod sucks when I just want to lurk or argue with schizo's not over politics. Everyone reports such trivial stuff.
I will say we really need term limits almost all the elected officials are really old. Like an issue both sides agree with outside the elected officials who have no will to do it. Like drain the swamp but don't refill it with geriatric cronies. And the court system should be apolitical but I guess everyone conveniently forgot that.
In my idealized world both(actually like 3-6) parties would be able to discuss stuff and competently address issues not argue over made up problems to throw red meat to the base.(looking at you both major parties). Like congress trying to learn how the internet works is always an endless source of entertainment.
Well this has been a manifesto work is over I'm going to go make dinner.