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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

but how do I give someone .0045 cents for no apparent reason??

[–] AndreyAsimow 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't forget the 40 dollar transaction fee

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only people that think this is correct are ones that learned about crypto 5 years ago and never thought to update their information. The lightning network allows for tiny bitcoin transactions with sub one cent transaction fees. In addition to that, the transactions happen in less than a second.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As long as you have a channel with that person preconfigured and funded right? Otherwise you need to do an on chain transaction with on chain fees to set up that sub one cent transaction.

[–] Astroturfed 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Shhhh, don't point out how there has to be a large pool of the currency sitting in someone's account and that the person often disappears with it all or spends it. That upsets their narrative. No regulation or oversite is GOOD.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No. I have opened up exactly 1 channel with 1 other person years ago, and it was done automatically when I installed the app. Since then I have been able to send and receive bitcoin to anyone I've wanted to instantly and for a miniscule fraction of the amount that I have sent. I am really surprised, I had no idea that so much misinformation was being passed around amongst people who have never even decided to try it themselves or even look into it deeply at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's also centralized and just a bandaid over an issue that could have been solved if Bitcoin had stayed true to its original intention, i.e. digital cash, not a fake store of value.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is absurd. Anyone who has the slightest idea of how it works knows that it is in no way centralized. It isn't hard to learn how it works.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Everyone who believed this was true lost a lot of money betting on Bitcoin Cash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh and show me people who bought Bitcoin in early 2021 that haven't lost cash please.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cherry picking, look at a log chart

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So is saying that everyone who bought Bitcoin cash lost money considering today isn't all time low.

It's not as if I was here to defend Bitcoin cash, I'm here to point out that Bitcoin and lighting network is flawed though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

split date != ATH

The rhetoric you're repeating is straight out of that scam. And you linked to their subreddit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You're the only one who talked about split date and if we go by that argument, whenever there's a hard fork the people who were there before will never be losing because they suddenly own both without having purchased one of them.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Monero transaction fees goes brrrrrrrrrrr

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's less than 10 cents

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GNU Taler. Ah, question was rhetorical :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really wish Taler to be available for use in the first country.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me too, I really like the concept, also have demo-purchased by app with it. Hope it will become usable reality at some point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This could be so awesome for electric scooters or anything tradicionally having coin insert.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Even if/when GNU Taler launches, somehow I don't think the VC-backed app scooter companies are going to be adopting anonymous payments anytime soon.