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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This limitation is too easy to get around. Have AI generate a picture. Take a photo of that picture and destroy the original. Copyright is now owned by the photographer. Have an AI write some music, change one note of that music and call in your arrangement of that piece, destroy the original music, and only your arrangement that you have a copyright on exists. etc.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a photographer that knows copyright law, I assure you flat-art copying a work of art does not make it yours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing I'm seeing that does sort of skirt the issue is that it's very obvious a lot of YouTubers have jumped on AI image generation to produce static images instead of drawing the images themselves or farming it out to an artist on Fiverr or something. So if they want "evil Jerome Powell with flames in his eyes" they hand it to the AI, it spits something out, and into the video it goes, to be published on YouTube as a memey splash image in the video.

Now that it's in the video, along with all the other clear acts of human creativity that form a video, it's sort of "washed" in the money laundering sense, and I don't see how you legally separate that image from the video in a way that makes the image ineligible for copyright. I don't see a court being flummoxed by that, at all. If you filch the image from the original video, or try to pull excerpts from the video featuring Evil JPow, you're in violation of copyright, and we're on pretty solid, well established legal ground with that. At the very least, you are not completely in the clear to just yank that image for yourself.

So while the original raw image of Evil Jpow that the AI spit out was not eligible for copyright by itself, now it is as part of a larger work, open and shut.

Near the end of the article it affirms pretty much that, saying, "An application for a work created with the help of AI can support a copyright claim if a human “selected or arranged” it in a “sufficiently creative way that the resulting work constitutes an original work of authorship,” [as quoted from the copyright office]

My quote is a bit messy there (i'm quoting the article who is quoting the copyright office) but you get the point.

The raw AI output, assuming no human was involved, cannot be copyrighted, but as soon as the AI output is somehow arranged into a larger work by a human, that changes everything.

So yeah, a bit of arranging, some editing, and the completely AI generated footage can be copyrighted all day. At the very least there would be a court case there.

[–] azurekevin 1 points 1 year ago

"evil Jerome Powell with flames in his eyes" Maverick of Wall Street? lmao

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You own the copyright of your photo, AI flat art has no copyright, therefore the only copyright is yours.

[–] Pipoca 2 points 1 year ago

When you copy a public domain work, you can copyright your original contributions.

So, for example, if you create a picture book of hamlet, you'd own the layout of the text on the page, but not the text of hamlet itself.