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[–] what_is_a_name 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Two failures do not make a right.

The point above stands. EVs do little for the environment. Compared to sensible options like transit and biking and walking they are marginally better, but hm hardly at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They reduce emissions in a neighborhood, in driveways and such, and they reduce sound pollution, which is great for local creatures.

They shift power generation to more efficient platforms, rather than messy, poorly maintained gas engines.

Battery production and recycling is a major issue.

For those who cannot walk or bike, an affordable ev is a great choice

[–] what_is_a_name 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You’re just reiterating my points. Yes they are better. And for people without a choice living in car dependent he’ll holes - an improvement.

But the fact that you live in a car dependent he’ll hole is another failure of our society - and prevents you from using much better options.

We should be addressing the root cause. Not the symptom.

In functional societies, EVs are a small improvement. The noise and carcinogen pollution, land use impact and simple danger to soft street users are key damages ALL cars make to spaces occupied by people.

Finally - I am tired of “we need cars for those with impairments / to reliever things / other bullshit.” We do not. It’s just the completely broken car-dependent American perspective.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Lol, we agree more than you think, but your despising incremental progress gets you nowhere. "But it isn't progress! It's not going the way I want it to go!" Sorry but you're looking down the barrel of decades worth of small changes to get to any American future you're seeking.

America is a big place, with many differing environments, governments, and needs. They aren't all going to "get there" in unison, or in a hurry.

In the mean time, quit shaming people trying to benefit their local system, and trying to conduct their lives in the way they see best, while keeping their gone and feeding their family.

When I see a Prius driving around I know that could have been a misused ferd f-teen thousand truck, which lives it's life commuting and getting groceries. I'll take the Prius.