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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The hollywood model is based on ownership of IP. Can you imagine if "Stranger things" was AI generated by Netflix, had a hit first season, then Disney released a second season with new actors? Meanwhile, CBS premieres "Stranger things : Miami?"

It would be a mess and put their entire business model into a tailspin.

This ruling may be the biggest bouy the writers have gotten so far in their strike.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that in this scenario, Netflix could hold copyright over the idea and characters. Only the script would be out of reach. Lawyers would ensure that they hold onto the right bits to prevent this scenario.

If I asked AI to write a story for a child, the whole thing is up for grabs. If I give it characters with specific traits and a story arc, that would still be mine. Only what the AI filled in wouldn't be protected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I'm sure that the government would grant copyright on the human-generated inputs to an imitative large language model so-called "AI." Not sure it would be worth anything, though.

Hell, I would bet that one might be able to copyright the database that was fed to an LLM, as long as it was independently generated & created by a human and not just a hoovering of a bunch of other authors' works.

The courts have this right, for sure. Presumably we can't copyright the answer that comes out of a calculator when we hit the "=" button. But we can copyright all the formula manipulation and original thought that went into deciding which keys to press on the calculator, and possibly even the action of pressing the keys? Not sure on that last bit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The "creation" is algorithmic, and just like the calculator's output that cannot be copyrighted. That's based on "facts" of the universe, not "creation."

Is saying "i want a long form show about 80s teenagers in a small town, one of which has psychic powers, with an overarching dark force that opposes them" really going to be "creative" enough to protect a tv series worth of output?

I think that falls apart in the same way that setting up a security camera once and then walking away doesnt give you permanent copyright over whatever it captures. There isn't enough humanity in the creation to count it as "uniquely human." The court seems to agree.

[–] Whelks_chance 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems to work fine with Sherlock Holmes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Holmes is very episodic by nature, which lends itself well to this structure. Even the ones that aim for an overaching story lean heavily into the "mystery of the week" for story structure.

It probally would work for things like the above, but can you honestly see long form shows working in the same way?

[–] tabular 1 points 1 year ago

People could pay the studios that made the version of the show they wanted most. Instead of having no choice but to buy from whoever paid the most in the collectable copyright trading card game.

Maybe I want the "Tron 3" Dreamworks would make, instead of Disney.