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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

all they need and cross-referenced with all the other tracking and accounts they have, there’s zero privacy left.

Privacy, like security, is about layers. Just because they have your metadata doesn't mean you go ahead and give them everything else.

Putting on tinfoil hat: or is it e2e encrypted?

Fair criticism, I'd recommend either Signal, Matrix, or XMPP over Telegram/Facebook(Meta).

You can derive pretty much everything from that [Metadata] alone.

Oversimplifying what actually happens. They can infer what may have happened based on other data points but its not 100% accurate. You can avoid all these metadata issues by not using messengers by Google/Facebook/Meta/Telegram in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’d recommend either Signal, Matrix, or XMPP over Telegram/Facebook(Meta).

Yes, me too. This whole discussion gave the impression that WhatsApp > Telegram and while this may be true the unfortunately very high adoption of WhatsApp made me argue against it. I'm well aware that Telegram isn't an alternative but the ones you mentioned are (personally I use Signal and even got a significant amount of people convinced to st least run it in parallel).