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Took the weans a walk away up the back of The Three Towns in Ayrshire where they are installing these big bad boys.

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[–] GreyShack 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They disrupt the trailing edge eddies - which is what causes any noise - and so make them quieter. They are often fitted in areas where sound might be a particular issue.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I can't hear the word eddies without thinking Hitchhiker's Guide

"Eddies," said Ford, "in the space-time continuum."

"Ah," nodded Arthur, "is he. Is he."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So why don't my CPU/case fans have serrated edges as well? Because they are too small?

[–] GreyShack 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they are too small?

Could be. As is said so often: physics doesn't scale. Trailing edge eddies may not be the major source of the noise in this anyway - since these are pushing air not being pushed by it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah that makes sense I guess.

[–] Finnbot 2 points 1 year ago

They are surrounding a farm with hunners of cows in multiple fields, so I wonder if the noise is quite scary for them, hence efforts to make them quieter. Or the farmer insisting. Are they usually quite loud?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trailing edge you say? So not designed to mince up birds, that's a relief.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh they’ll still mince birds, just with the blunt side

[–] GreyShack 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the bird deaths are not actually physical strikes - it is a result of the massive change of air pressure as the blades pass at speed. Evidently painting one of the blades black - or some contrasting colour - keeps a lot of the birds well away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

do they pass out? does it affect their breathing? this is very interesting to me

[–] GreyShack 2 points 1 year ago

I realise that I had mis-remembered this. It is primarily bat deaths that are caused by the air pressure changes around turbines - not birds. This is because bats have a particularly large and thin lung internal membranes which gives them high efficiency. The rapid decompression in the immediate wake of the turbine blades - particularly towards the tips, which are the fastest moving part of course - damages this membrane.

Birds have more compact lungs and hollow bones which aid in their breathing - a different solution to the efficiency problem and one that is not as susceptible to these pressure changes.