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Removal of piracy communities (self.lemmyworld)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin to c/lemmyworld

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Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[–] abstractastronaut 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn't even know an instance could block a specific community of another instance. I thought the only option was defederation. Is there any way to see/list the communities blocked by an instance?

[–] LimeStone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Genuinly good question. I get why they did what they did but i personally would like to be able to see all of the lemmyverse. Being on one the largest instances probably isnt the answer.

[–] Neoncamouflage 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. I didn't come here for censorship with extra steps.

[–] LimeStone 3 points 1 year ago

Not sure how all of this will shake out but my hope is that someday at the very least i can host an instancs for only myself that is so small and miniscule that nobody bothers to defederate with me. At the very least maybe there will be a log of this stuff so we can all see which instancs is the most friendly. Regardless of all this im very happy that the people behind lemmy.world keep it running as smoothly as they do and im happy with it at the moment.

[–] arin 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kinda sucks the largest one has to include censorship that's against The majority of the community. I would get it if the majority of the community was against piracy and we really want to block it but that's obviously not the case

[–] grayhaze -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have any figures to show that the majority of the users on this instance are in favour of piracy? Or do you just assume you're in the majority?

[–] arin 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at the vote count on the op by the admin

[–] grayhaze -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So out of those users who have both read and voted on this post, 60% voted negatively. It's safe to assume that the majority of people who did both are those who feel strongly one way or the other about the issue, and statistically it's more likely that those who disagree will vote, as those who are angry about something tend to be the most vocal. Unfortunately we have no easy way of knowing how many users who read the post don't care one way or another.

In addition, Lemmy.world has around 21K users per month, and out of those around 1.5K users voted negatively. That's around 7% of the monthly users who disagree with this news. Hardly a majority.

[–] MicrowaveOvens 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Click "instances" at the bottom of the page and scroll down to "blocked instances".

For lemmy.world: link

[–] abstractastronaut -1 points 1 year ago

That lists entirely blocked instances (defederated instances), yes, but the original post talks about blocking specific communities of an instance, which I didn't think was possible.