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[SOLVED] After migrating my custom domain to icloud+: Some Questions (feddit.de)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/apple_enthusiast
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I migrated my custom domain to icloud+. Seems to work but there are three problems/questions:

  1. Where are all my emails? I used IMAP so i thought that all the inboxes (of the 3 accounts) will besynchronized after the "redirection" to icloud+

  2. I imported three e-mails: Does icloud not seperate those three accounts? There is only one folder in Mail (on ipad and iphone)?

  3. How can i configure the icloud-account(s) in thunderbird?

Thanks for help

SOLUTIONS:

  1. To get your old mails in your new icloud-account, you can use the mail-app or thunderbird (i guess outlook too) and draw the mails in the new folders. I just draw the inboxes to the new icloud-account-folders and the other stuff to local folders. Good possibility to minimize. Have to see if it works.

  2. Workaround: Create folders and rules in icloud+, so that the mails will be sorted.

  3. You have to create an app-password that works in thunderbird or other 3rd party apps.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  1. You likely only changed DNS records, so old mail is still sitting on the previous mail servers. icloud isn't a 'typical' mail server so migrating old email to it would really just be copying all of those old emails into your single icloud mailbox. what've you done so far will only affect new email being sent to the domains you've imported to icloud.
  2. icloud aliases all of your custom domains to the single icloud mailbox. So no, you won't have separate mailboxes for each 'account', everything will happen within the one mailbox.
  3. configure thunderbird for your icloud account/mailbox only since all of the emails point to that single destination.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Perfect answer. Thank you.

What do i have to do to copy the mails from 2023? I (think I) have no access to the old mailserver but i have all the copies in my thunderbird.

I am a little bit disappointed. I have three accounts to separate different kind of work and private stuff. So I have to work with folders and rules?

Got it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For migrating your best bet is probably Thunderbird or Outlook, whatever you prefer. Use that app to export a copy of your mailbox from the old mail servers, then import all of those into your single icloud mailbox using the same application.

I've never migrated mail into an icloud mailbox though so there may be some hiccups there that I'm not aware of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Seems to work in thunderbird. Thanks

[–] wildcelt 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Prepare to be continually disappointed. I switched my domain over when it was first announced, and although it certainly works, there are definitely some needed features lacking. Other than centralizing how emails are delivered, there isn't much of a benefit to using a custom email domain. Plus, I've yet to find an iOS app (other than Mail) that works with them.

Regarding migration, have you tried simply dragging and dropping the email from the old account onto the new one? I haven't used T-bird for this, but it works in Mail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I am ok with the mail-app.

You are right: Tested to drag an old mail in thunderbird from the old account to the new icloud-account and it worked! Also works in the apple-mail-app but i do not have a mac, so it is easier in thunderbird in my case.

[–] jefff 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you elaborate on what features are missing? I'm currently using mailbox.org as an email host, but considering swapping over to iCloud+

[–] wildcelt 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sure. By far the biggest issue is once you do it you are locked into using default iOS/MacOS mail apps. I’ve yet to find an alternative email client that can distinguish between your default iCloud account and your custom address.

Receiving email isn’t the issue, it’s replying from your custom address. I suppose a client that can use email aliases would work, but honestly I stopped looking for one on iOS.

It isn’t all bad though. Using iCloud’s storage and system basically means you don’t need to pay for a mail account at your domain registrar.

[–] jefff 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks! Although I'm using Android; and since I need aliases with mailbox.org anyway, presumably I have that covered with K-9. For MacOS I'm happy with the default Mail client anyhow; it's nice enough to hold all my stuff that isn't browser based.

Their web client seemed kind of crappy, but usable at least, if I remember right. Not often I need to log in from a computer that I don't own, but once in a while it comes in handy.

[–] sijt 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

  1. There's an article on Apple Support about importing mail here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/icloud/mmf9877972f7/1.0/icloud/1.0

  2. I think this is a Thunderbird issue. They are separate in Mail.app. It even allows you to use a catch-all rule if you're the domain owner. Maybe you could set up smart mailboxes (or whatever the Thunderbird equivalent is, I've not used it in probably 15 years)?

[–] valkyre09 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

1: there’s a third party app called MailJerry - I’ve used it before for these types of migrations

2: if you set the mail rules on iCloud.com, the emails will go in to their respective folders at the server level and you won’t need to configure it every time you set up a mail client.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

1: Seems too late in my case. I yet edited the DNS-configuration so i do not have access to the old servers.

2: YES! This looks good! Will try this. THANKS

[–] valkyre09 1 points 1 year ago

You can still access the mail without the dns entries.

If you used to enter, say for example mail.domain.com in your mail client. That would have pointed to an IP address of a mail server.

Use that IP address instead of the domain name.

I used to do email migration for a web design company and it happened all the time where dns switched before email was migrated.

If your email was hosted by a third party like Google etc then the dns won’t matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
  1. I did not see the + to import mails but this would not work either because the old mailservers do not work anymore.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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