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Ever since I learned about the Fairphone, I keep trying to figure out when they'll release the Fairphone 5.

Further, I keep wondering whether it'll be usable easily and realistically by Verizon, since there's some complications with Fairphone being based in the Netherlands, but I believe generally supported across Europe since so much of their website is in English.

Just about anything I find over on Reddit seems to be outdated, speculating and guessing, or otherwise unreliable.

Anybody know many details about when it might come out, and whether it'll be supported here in the US??

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm seriously considering a Fairphone for my next device. If only GrapheneOS could run on it... It would be a no brainer at that point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I would, but sadly the security hardware just isn't there. Calyx works though!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I can't find the link, but there was some discussion from the graphene developers about needing some data that they couldn't get from fairphone. I searched the GitHub issues but I couldn't find it. Maybe it's in the forum.

Interestingly fair phone forum blocks my country, saying data is not available in my country. Doesn't sound very fair to me

-- update https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/820#issuecomment-978253711

Found the link, but graphene has deleted the issue. That might mean they're actually working on fairphone. But that's just me guessing. But yeah if you dig it up in the archive, you'll see they're talking about they couldn't get the right data from fairphone. But that was a couple years ago. Maybe things have changed

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't a huge company and adhering to regulations on data collection costs money. If they don't operate in your country, not offering the website at all is the cheapest thing to do, so it almost surely isn't malice.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Strongly disagree. A fair, free, open internet is the core principal of the internet. If they're worried about data collection standards they could simply not collect data and provide a read-only version of the website to regions they're not invested in.

Denying the data, memory holes discussions, forum posts, etc.. it's extremely internet unhealthy.

But I respect that some companies might feel that they should only provide content to the region they're currently providing. But it's a terrible precedent.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Silly you, they're not fair to people! They're fair to their shareholders.