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I bet an actual ethical review would probably kill the company as much as Linus's video. At the end of the day, I agree with Linus's assessment (minus his hysterics). This thing is over $800. It could be half the price and still be a terrible option. In a way, the video was kinda like those "i made a wish pc" videos where they lampoon a product or an entire company. And LMG makes a ton of those videos.
It's basically sharing a heatsink between the GPU and CPU. There's not much reason to do that even in SFF pcs because the biggest part of the water cooling system is the radiator. And I think this wouldn't work in many sff cases anyway because they tend to be sandwich oriented, using risers to mount the gpu on the other side of the mobo.
I think that may be what linus meant about "reading the room". I think the tone with the video was one of a real review but the content matched more of their videos where they buy dumb garbage online. I'm not excusing it at all and lmg definitely deserve the negative publicity.
But at the end of the day Linus was kinda right, there's no cooling solution worth it at that price point and it is in fact a bad product regardless of how well it cools your card. You can buy a brand new intel 13900k and have over $200 left over
Yet there will still be people that will want the best of the best cooling regardless of how overpriced it is. As ridiculous as it is, he should have given it a fair chance.
LTT prides itself on reliability of testing and so when they aren't willing to go the extra mile to do it correctly, it upsets people. No matter how ridiculous the product is.
Products that are obviously scams or ewaste don't need the full testing treatment, but this is a real product that has a real use for those that have desire for it.
Ultimately it hurts a small company's reputation when they didn't deserve it.
Now you (and GN) have to decide... Either Linus is supposed to give his take and opinion on items they review without any regard to relationships or are they supposed to give this product preferential treatment because of who produced it?
While GN is certainly right in several points (and LMGs selling of the prototype was a really bad oversight for which they need to pay), Linus take from "no cooling performance is worth it at this price point and nobody should buy this) is his opinion and it is not without reason or logic. And GN tells him 5 minutes earlier to do exactly that - give his opinion and take without regard to others, the community or the producers of the products in the name of "journalistic integrity".
it's just not coherent.
when Nvidia releases a new Titan6001 (or whatever) his opinion is usually something like "(massively) overpriced, but the best performance out there", usually without even offering better bang for your buck options.