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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin to c/lemmyworld
 

Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[–] Dekudibusei 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Simply "discussing" child pornography is fine too? I agree with the previous responde: you're not fooling anyone with the flawed argument you hide behind.

[–] joe 6 points 1 year ago

What flawed argument are you referring to? The admins of this site claimed they had to block those communities for fear of legal repercussions. If we all agree that discussing piracy isn't illegal, and there's no examples of them breaking their own rules against linking to infringing content, then from where is the danger of a lawsuit coming from? It makes no sense and feels much more like an excuse that was concocted after-the-fact to rationalize it.

[–] AllukaTheCutie7725 3 points 1 year ago

Simply β€œdiscussing” child pornography is fine too?

You just compared Piracy and CSAM... didn't you... πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

FYI for those who don't know this is called a strawman argument, they're often used by people who don't have a valid point to make or aren't capable of formulating a reasonable counterargument because they can derail the conversation and change the argument.

In this case comparing Piracy and CSAM doesnb't make sense because they are extremely different types of crimes and also differ greatly in severity. CSAM is much more severe than Piracy in any form, because it is sexual abuse material or depictions of children (either real or fabricated) it is a very heinous and awful crime. It represents significant irrevocable harm to a person either physically, emotionally, or many times both.

Piracy on the other hand is infringing on someone's copyright, it is a civil matter and even in cases of large commercial piracy it is still not seen in the same light as something as despicable as CSAM, some might argue that it could cause significant monetary damage, but even that is nowhere near as awful as the damage CSAM causes and has caused to people. It's honestly so terrible that the fact that you would try to use it as a gotcha to win a this petty piracy debate is honestly disgusting, it shows that you are a disgusting person who doesn't understand how severe of a crime or accusation that is.