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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin to c/lemmyworld
 

Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[โ€“] majere 93 points 1 year ago (26 children)

The great thing is, now you're 100% empowered to move forward and host the responsibility yourself. Demanding volunteers shoulder potential liability (when you yourself admit you can't understand how there's any in the first place) is juvenile.

The moment a volunteer is hit with a DMCA notice or any threat of legal action, you think they have any interest in going through the court system? You can do it first.

[โ€“] pankuleczkapl 71 points 1 year ago (21 children)

I think you don't understand what a DMCA notice actually is. The whole point of it is to give you a chance to remove offending content. The "threat" of legal action won't actually result in anything, provided you comply, and that is exactly why I do not understand the preemptive actions, when there is basically no such thing as immediate legal threat in case of DMCA notices. The copyright holders often do not want to go through the court system either and will gladly accept pre-legal-action compliance.

[โ€“] AlmightySnoo 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

You seem to know your way around the law then, so please be the change you want to see in this world. Host a piracy instance and show everyone here that we were wrong and that the admins were just overreacting.

[โ€“] pankuleczkapl 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can openly admit I am breaking the law for example by using torrents for piracy - and I seed as much as I can, though it in theory makes me liable. So yes, I am the change I want to see - piracy should be free to discuss everywhere

[โ€“] AlmightySnoo -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You can go further: host a piracy instance since you seem confident enough and prove us wrong. Why are you avoiding this part? I'm not the only one having suggested this to you.

[โ€“] pankuleczkapl 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And here you are (after fighting with docker for an hour) http://pankuleczka.ydns.eu/

[โ€“] AlmightySnoo 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I take back what I said then and I commend you for putting money where your mouth is and I hope you know what you're doing. That's something that the others are not willing to do but feel entitled to expect from LW because it's not their necks on the noose.

[โ€“] pankuleczkapl 7 points 1 year ago

Thank you, and please keep in mind some people are not willing to go that far because of their jurisdiction and not specifically entitlement. I went that far because I know that in Eastern Europe it is very rare to even receive a letter from ISP, not to even mention any type of persecution.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

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[โ€“] pankuleczkapl 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, if someone uses it then it's no problem for me. There are much bigger communities already out there though, so I see no reason to do that. I'll set it up right now to show you

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