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[–] PorradaVFR 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get it man but accept that opting for worse in the pursuit of change is not a solution.

To a large degree that’s what led people to vote for Trump - he was independent (not actually), self-financed (big nope) and an outsider (incompetent clown). Not saying this guy is akin to Trump but are you certain enough of that to still support him?

Argentina’s history has enough heartbreak and man this guy sure smells like a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Maybe he’s really not. Maybe his heart is in the right place. That’s a big maybe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ok at this point I do not understand why you think he's worse, while everything I've explained is why he's the better candidate amongst the trashcan all 4 Others are (other chain of comments, sorry if you didnt read them), and there being no more viable options. Why do you think he's worse? Just because hes a Far Right? Because he expresses sentiment to bad ideologies? If any of that is true, i'd let you know the guys in the Blue side praise Chinese overlords and Russian leaders, the guys in Yellow there's nothing wrong im aware of but they've already been in the Government, doing nothing good to it and only proving they are part of the problem, despite that they are the ones I voted for on this round of Election in subject. Milei is a MAYBE he's not bad, all others are FOR SURE BAD

If it is because some of his personnel ideas are surely gonna be pushed, hell as long as the good ideas are (which are majority), we urgently need them, we can deal with his shitty side later

I get you may be thinking with experience in hand of The Hell Trump instated on the US being a far Right, but im telling you from current experience of the Hell the Left has instated in Argentina for GENERATIONS

[–] PorradaVFR 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right - I think but do not know he's worse and it's due to the global pattern of totalitarianism that the Right has embraced. I fear Argentina falling into that trap by electing a populist today that refuses to cede power tomorrow.

If he's the least bad option that's a commentary of the politics there and perhaps your conclusion is justified, I simply don't know enough about them to say, but a meh known quantity appeals more to me than a personable extremist.

With all respect, is defeatism the best way to choose leadership? Far Right is in an of itself disqualifying to me because I strongly oppose their stated policy positions so I'm certainly not objective.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im not familiar enough with the term "Defeateism" to be sure on my answer, but just from Google definition, It is rather the only way Argentines have to vote, but this time there's at least hope since Milei is conpletely New, past Elections were completely defeateism as all candidates were already in power and were for sure bad, it was picking your poison 100%

I'd even say that the biggest driving factor for Milei's success is that he's new.

By the way, you said how you dont want Argentina to fall under totalitarism with a Populist that refuses to cede Power, you are describing exactly Kristina Fernandez on 2015 who refused to even stand in the same room to pass the Symbols of Power to the elected opossition Mauricio Macri, time again a Left Politician

[–] PorradaVFR 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She may have rudely skipped the ceremonial handoff but she ceded power. That’s a far cry from refusing to which is the threat I meant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No she didnt ced the Power, justice had to intervene and a Provisional President (that lasted 12 hours) had to do it instead of her, good thing our constitution explicitly extinguishes Presidential Power the exact moment the clock hits 00:00 their last day of charge, or else?

I know that you meant something more serious, but to our constitution there isnt more serious than this

[–] PorradaVFR 1 points 1 year ago

I did not know she actually refused. Dick move but smart for the constitution to stipulate that.

[–] PorradaVFR 1 points 1 year ago

You're right - I think but do not know he's worse and it's due to the global pattern of totalitarianism that the Right has embraced. I fear Argentina falling into that trap by electing a populist today that refuses to cede power tomorrow.

If he's the least bad option that's a commentary of the politics there and perhaps your conclusion is justified, I simply don't know enough about them to say, but a meh known quantity appeals more to me than a personable extremist.

With all respect, is defeatism the best way to choose leadership? Far Right is in an of itself disqualifying to me because I strongly oppose their stated policy positions so I'm certainly not objective.