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[–] njordomir 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I keep seeing joggers in my area choosing the bike lane over the sidewalk, presumably because asphalt is softer than concrete sidewalks. If paving a ped lane next to the bike lane is what it takes to isolate these wrong-way bike-lane-jogging scufflaws, then let's just do it and be done with it. We can cannibalize a car lane to make it happen. >:-)

[–] schroedingershat 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sidewalks in car-brained areas are super dangerous to jog on. People backing out of their driveway or turning across the road at 10-20km/h without looking. Trip hazards. Ankle destroying driveway cutouts or curved surfsces. Uneven grading.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ya. I think it's more the cut-outs that they're trying to avoid. Hard to blame them.

[–] WldFyre 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would running on the road be safer, though??

[–] schroedingershat 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Running against traffic on the road improves pretty much all of these and puts the new threat (oncoming cars) under their control.

It does leave the runner vulnerable to cars turning right (in drive-on-the-right countries) though if they aren't hyper aware of it.

[–] njordomir 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a bit late to reply, but this is a great explanation. I always assumed it was just the softness of asphalt vs concrete on the knees, but there is absolutely a case to be made for visibility. It's unexpected as a cyclist, but I am 100% empathetic to the struggles of anyone not in a car, more specifically one of those Dodge Ram 3500s with smokestacks and truck nuts on the bumper that seem to be so popular right now. :-)