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[–] chiliedogg 74 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Which is why Google's next step is to effectively require chromium browsers for any websites wanting access to Google services and products.

[–] rifugee 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Sounds like a good reason to stop using Google services and products. Some examples (note, I haven't used some of these yet):

Search - DuckDuckGo

Email - ProtonMail

Drive - Dropbox

Sheets/Docs - Zoho

Some of these examples may not the best for everyone, but my point is that we do not have to let Google continue to push us around.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

No, it sounds like a good reason for anti-trust regulators to make an injunction to stop Google from doing it.

It's time for this fantasy bullshit notion that boycotts are worth a damn to end. In reality, it's nothing but pro-corporate propaganda designed to make people think they're "fighting the man" or whatever when they're actually completely ineffective.

Now, don't get me wrong: by all means, please feel free to quit using Google's shit! That's 100% a good thing and I fully encourage it! Just don't delude yourself into thinking it represents even the slightest shred of a solution to the systemic problem Google's anticompetitive strategies represent.

[–] Daft_ish 19 points 10 months ago

Sorry, our hyper partisan system has all but crippled regulation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Regulars are too busy trying to get rid of encryption. A double edged sword in the situation with Google's drm

[–] chiliedogg 11 points 10 months ago

It's not you and me. It's the websites. They're not going to give up on having anyone with Chrome or using Google services from being able to access their sites. We'd end up with 2 Internets - one with Google and one without. And we all know that the one with Google will win.

[–] sirfacefone 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you like ChatGPT/care less about privacy, Bing is a great alternative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

or just use the open source open assistant io

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you suggest a replacement for Android?

[–] rifugee 3 points 10 months ago

These are built from the open source version of Android and do not have Google stuff:

  • LineageOS
  • GrapheneOS (can be installed on Pixels)

These are based on various flavors of Linux (Android is technically a flavor of Linux too):

  • PureOS (Librem 5 line by Purism)
  • Ubuntu Touch (support for lots of devices, but typically not the flagships)
  • Manjaro OS (on PinePhone by PINE64, an open source hardware community, which is the best way I can describe it)
[–] ilikekeyboards 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Feels bad but I can't condone this behaviour anymore and I feel ashamed that I haven't seen the greed Google is capable of doing.

In the coming months I will do my best to migrate away from the Google system, even if I end up paying a tad more, maybe just in time to set up a home server for photos.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Proton offering is a great alternative imo

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Well, if you can live with the fact that you need to either use the webmailer, their mobile apps or the bridge on desktop to use standard mail/calendar/anything software. I tried for a few years to migrate to PM (with a paid plan) but failed :(

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Mozzilla be suing

[–] OfficerBribe 0 points 10 months ago

There is no way anything like this would ever go through. Google's own lawyers would quickly put a stop at this. It is known that Google sometimes has used features that for Firefox is problematic at least for YouTube, but it eventually is resolved by changes in FF

[–] Bloodyhog 0 points 10 months ago

Oh, but it will not be GOOGLE's next step. I dont think it is the goal anyway. They only need to help site owners to sign up to their WEI thing, and there will be oh so many incentives. Google will be happy to license it out, or even make the toolkit fully opensource, to whoever wants to implement it in their browser, regardless of the engine used. Their obvious ultimate goal is to show the ads with no interruptions, which also happens to be the desire of most of the websites. And many websites will willingly implement it on their side, they do not really need too much encouragement.