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Family of Utah man shot dead by FBI after threats to Biden say he was ‘frustrated’
(www.independent.co.uk)
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@Lemmylefty
I am under no delusions the guy was anything but a vicious piece of crap; I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of people like this, and this guy will be a martyr to them, and the tragedy of dead fucking Americans will grow with every body that hits the floor.
I'm not suggesting the GOP or their views are to be somehow socially redeemed, but if you're fine with everything being escalated to a shootout, I think its probably already too late anyway.
Are you sure this reply is directed at my comment? Lemmy has a tendency to let comments slide around.
@Lemmylefty
Man, it sure doesn't look like it, does it. My bad, I must have mis-clicked.
It does, however, accurately state my perspective. Concerning your assertions about therapy and families, therapy isn't necessarily going to fix these folks. By and large we have to remove the oxygen from the room where these ideas breed, and force out the occupants. Maybe the FBI should do something to take these guys alive instead of engaging them on their level. Not because its the moral thing to do, that is an adjacent and separate reason; but for tactical and strategic reasons.
The dumb bastard knew what he was doing, and it worked. He has done the noble deal, and died for his cause. Those that share his cause will see him as a literal inspiration. It's playing right into their hands.
It’s okay; it’s a bit of a puzzle, putting some of these threads together. That, and while I can see the number of comments, it rarely matches up, so I think some comments aren’t popping up or are disappearing when deleted.
Oh yeah, I see therapy as a reactive effort, with the biggest issue being the profit made from polarization and conspiracy laced media. But it’s a good barometer for who is more prone to develop these issues. It’s a numbers game whenever you’re dealing with big populations with respect to limited resources, so focusing on those people who are most susceptible or most surrounded by this rot and get it within their closest social spheres is useful.
The problem is that once the fire takes hold you have to shift a lot of the effort to firefighting and not fire prevention. That, and for all their monitoring, agencies like the FBI aren’t as good at suppressing extremism as, say, increasing social services and a focus on healthy communities. They’re hammers, and we’ve all got a bunch of loose screws…
@Lemmylefty
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner here. Best comment on the thread.
This guy is just a dumbass to everybody. He was killed by a gun fetish, he couldn't resist a shootout when the FBI came.
His only legacy is spending his life collecting a bunch of guns to give to the FBI.
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@Lemmylefty
This is wishful thinking. I live in one of the black hearts of Trumplandia, and I can assure that what you say is anything but the case.