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[–] bulbasaur 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use a throwaway email and don't give personal info

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's not possible on Discord. They require a phone number. Many countries have Mandatory SIM Registration laws that make it illegal to get a phone number anonymously.

And Discord will auto-ban your account just for using Tor Browser or other privacy addons in your web browser.

My point is: don't use Discord. Use a service that allows you to only use a throwaway email.

Message sent from Tor Browser using an account on Lemmy registered with a throwaway email

[–] bulbasaur 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is misinformation. I use a throwaway email and they don't have my phone number

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah? Go signup for a new account on Discord with Tor Browser and see how far you get.

This is not misinformation; it's very informed information. I use Tor Browser everyday, so I know very well which services treat me like a second-class citizen and ban me just for existing (without doing anything bad). See also Paypal, Ebay, Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, 90% of banks, etc.

Unfortunately, most fraud detection systems these days use Machine Learning algorithms that ban you before or immediately after you create an account because they can't uniquely fingerprint your session or because you "look" like someone who did something bad in the past (again because they can't uniquely fingerprint you). These are false-positives, and they don't care because not enough people complain about needing services for anonymous users.

I work in cybersecurity; this is a very informed opinion.

[–] bulbasaur 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're literally saying things that aren't true. I know you can use a throwaway email bc I use one. I know you don't have to give your phone number because I never have had to.

I don't want to use TOR, no thanks. We're not discussing anything that requires that level of privacy in the server. We're just reading theory and talking about it and sharing memes.

Anyway, no one is forcing you to join the discord. It might not be for you, but you're not the only person on the internet. That's why we have a lemmy comm too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah exactly, you're misinformed.

As soon as you use Tor Browser (which you won't try), it'll lock you your account until you give them your phone number and an OTP sent to that number.

We’re not discussing anything that requires that level of privacy

For some people, everything requires privacy. For some people, they can't access the Internet without services like Tor.

You're being intentionally dismissive of folks at-risk. That harms our community.

[–] bulbasaur 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not talking about TOR

Edit: repeatedly editing your comments with no indication that you've done so after I've replied sucks

Edit2: literally just don't use the discord then???? This is a discord community that decided to make a lemmy comm. If anything I'm increasing access to ppl who don't want to use discord. I'm not harming the community by doing this wth

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or you could literally just use Matrix instead? Like most people on Lemmy use??

Because it's better for folks who live in oppressive regimes and need to use Tor to safely browse the internet?

[–] bulbasaur 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the problem with using this lemmy??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No problem with using Lemmy. Lemmy is great! I'm writing from Tor Browser now with a throwaway email.

The problem is Discord.

[–] bulbasaur 2 points 1 year ago

Again, no one is forcing you to use the discord