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Starters

Cleveland Guardians

Gavin Williams - RHP W L ERA G GS SV IP SO WHIP
1 3 3.38 8 8 0 42.2 37 1.34

Toronto Blue Jays

Hyun Jin Ryu - LHP W L ERA G GS SV IP SO WHIP
0 1 7.20 1 1 0 5.0 3 2.00

Lineups

Pos Toronto Blue Jays Batters Bats AVG HR RBI SB
LF Davis Schneider R .692 2 5 0
DH Brandon Belt L .254 10 29 0
1B Vladimir Guerrero Jr. R .263 18 69 4
RF George Springer R .255 13 44 14
C Danny Jansen R .228 15 49 0
3B Matt Chapman R .258 15 49 3
CF Daulton Varsho L .217 13 37 12
2B Cavan Biggio L .211 7 20 3
SS Paul DeJong R .224 13 32 4
Pos Cleveland Guardians Batters Bats AVG HR RBI SB
LF Steven Kwan L .273 5 38 16
2B Andres Gimenez L .236 10 42 18
3B Jose Ramirez S .289 18 65 16
DH Oscar Gonzalez R .227 1 5 0
RF Kole Calhoun L .286 0 1 0
1B Gabriel Arias R .202 5 10 1
SS Brayan Rocchio S .214 0 1 0
CF Myles Straw R .238 0 20 13
C Bo Naylor L .198 4 13 1
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thinking about it a little, I think we'll probably still have a 6-pitcher rotation by September. I think our 4 workhorses this season could all benefit from a lighter load the rest of the way to the post season. Also, I think several questions remain to be answered, like who's our third best pitcher right now (behind Gausman and Berríos), what's the best role for Kikuchi in the post season (starter or reliever), and does it make sense to keep both Manoah and Ryu on the roster at the expense of bullpen arm

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think until a clear top 5 show they deserve to be the rotation, we run with 6 starters for the rest of the season. Gausman's numbers for sure are better with the extra day of rest, and you can always play with the order if there's an off day. Until our bullpen starts to get overused at least. If there's an opportunity to send a guy to the IL for phantom foot tenderness, we can maybe pull a guy up for bullpen help in a pinch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Good points! I'd like to learn more about how bullpen overuse is measured, because there's IP obviously, but I feel like the truest definition of bullpen overuse is how much pitching talent a manager is not able to put on the field in a given situation/ game/ span of games, so maybe weighting IP by ERA+ or 'how many players are in the red' (using the Jays stoplight system) might be better. There are probably papers on this, but I'm too tired to read them right now