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Why is the Node ecosystem so demanding? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Steps to reproduce:

Start a Node project that uses at least five direct dependencies.
Leave it alone for three months.
Come back and try to install it.

Something in the dependency tree will yell at you that it is deprecated or discontinued. That thing will not be one of your direct dependencies.

NPM will tell you that you have at least one security vulnerability. At least one of the vulnerabilities will be impossible to trigger in your particular application. At least one of the vulnerabilities will not be able to be fixed by updating the versions of your dependencies.

(I am sure I exaggerate, but not by much!)

Why is it like this? How many hours per week does this running-to-stay-in-place cost the average Node project? How many hours per week of developer time is the minimum viable Node project actually supposed to have available?

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[–] Vipsu 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fron-end development with Java? You mean Java applets or something?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

JSF for example. e.g. Primefaces https://www.primefaces.org/ I think there is something like Omnifaces too

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Behold the horror of Vaadin: https://vaadin.com/docs/latest/guide/quick-start#add-code

[–] Vipsu 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly looks like any other UI library/Framework for C#/Java.

However usually these elements are not instantiated/configured directly but from xml, yaml or json files that are built using some sort of GUI/Editor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Google Web Toolkit was a thing at some point in time. ;y current company still maintains some apps which are written in it.