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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (22 children)

From all the discussions I've read about Free Will, I'm convinced the term actually doesn't mean anything at all. What would a world with free will look like? What would a world without free will look like? How would a person with/without it behave? Would there be any tangible difference between them?

As far as I can tell, free will is supposed to be a property of a person, which may or may not have something to do with physics, either everybody has it or nobody has it, and nobody has a definition that would let them measure it (without reducing the question to a disagreement over semantics). I think that whether someone believes in free will is a trick question; you can't believe or disbelieve in a something that isn't even a real concept to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It can in theory be disproved - if we ever manage to prove that universe is deterministic, free will by definition cannot exist.

[–] QuazarOmega 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not necessarily, even if everything is determined randomly we still end up without free will, because then it's not us that somehow introduce the randomness from both outside and within the system, it is randomness itself that makes us

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Nah, that's just your thought process. As far as I know, if universe is proven to be undeterministic, free will remains unproven and undisproven.

[–] feedum_sneedson 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, maybe, maybe not.

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