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[–] [email protected] 206 points 1 year ago (38 children)

no i dont trust brave. i did never understand why people would choose brave over firefox+ublockorigen

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

Popular tech (a la pop sci or pop psych). Brave uses the right techy sounding buzzwords to appeal to the pseudo power user.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

At the time I switched, the built-in blocker worked on a site I regularly used while Firefox+ublock did not (I think it would just prevent things from working or cause infinite ad-loops). If I wasn't looking for an alternative adblocker, would probably have never bothered switching. There's also the "get pocket change from using our browser" thing. Some may have been speculating on the value of BATs?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched back to Firefox, but the one issue I'm having is the gesture add-ons. They just don't work near as well as the ones in Chrome ☹️

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

This is honestly the first valid drawback I've seen in this thread about Firefox. Personally, I have to disable most gesture-based features on my device due to my big clumsy hands and perhaps a bit of an inherited neurological problem, but I understand that most users are not like me.

I'd encourage you to share your needs with the Firefox community. I've seen some amazing features and add-ons born out of someone simply stepping forward and pointing out how useful a certain feature would be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Chromium based browsers tend to have less issues. I have to use some government websites that have features that won’t work on firefox

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which government web sites don't work? I'd like to report them on Bugzilla.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Portuguese IRS and Social Security websites. It’s been years since I tried to access them through firefox though

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your information is probably no longer accurate then. Firefox has undergone many significant updates even within the past year, and it's very likely those tools are now fully functional, as I'd suspect at some point they'd have been reported on Bugzilla.

I have to access many US government web sites regularly, including the US IRS web site, and I never have a problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Back when I was studying computer engineering I was also an avid fan of firefox and I also kept hearing and parroting those lines. Eventually I gave up and stuck with chromium based browsers. (Also because of other reasons, like some extensions only being available for chrome, html games support, etc)

US and portuguese governments are in different leagues. I would assume that yours has better funding and spends more on their virtual infrastructure. I doubt they are comparable, but it is possible that they fixed those issues that I had meanwhile

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's probably been fixed. I'm not just "parroting those lines" -- I'm suggesting that if you find it's still not functioning on Firefox, the thing to do is to report the issue. (I had previously said Bugzilla, but they get reported to Web Compat now.) I will mention that our IRS is not known for its efficiency and being up to date lol.

Which extensions are missing on Firefox?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can see that you’re enthusiast and care about firefox, it’s thanks to people like you that these tools get better. But me, for lack of better words, can’t bring myself to care that much about any piece of software that ain’t related to my job, nevermind reporting issues. I’ll use whatever gives me less trouble in my personal time, if in the future things change for chromium, I’ll come back to firefox.

When I get home I’ll check my extensions and pass you the ones that don’t exist for firefox. Right now the only one I remember isn’t really an extension, it’s the text to speech function of Edge, that uses their AI voices.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for agreeing to look into this. It's very frustrating when there are so many users claiming certain add-ons are missing in Firefox without ever being able to provide specific examples. It's the same thing I see when people mention web sites breaking on Firefox, but no one can ever provide links so someone who is interested in fixing things can help.

And I do understand not feeling led to devote time and energy to troubleshooting. That's one reason I'd like to understand what you're looking for. I enjoy spending time in shared spaces with some very active add-on developers as well as communities like the Mozilla forums, so I'd be happy to share anything people feel is missing on your behalf.

Also, I do understand finding certain features convenient that Microsoft and Google can provide, but I'm also aware that some of these features come at the cost of our personal data and privacy, which is also a line one has to draw for oneself. I even know people who won't join Lemmy due to concerns, so I understand this is a personal choice. It's just nice to know we have such choices and that they are not forced on us.

Cheers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That used to be true, and I keep Chrome and Edge installed just in case, but honestly I haven’t had to use a different browser in years.

Any web page problems that I found turned out not to be Firefox related.

But if you like Chrome, there’s nothing wrong with that either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

To be clear, I don’t like Chrome itself, I use Edge and sometimes Brave.

Depending on how the whole DRM and adblock thing goes, I might come back to firefox.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Portuguese here. Haven't had to use anything but Firefox on the IRS and Social Security websites. What are you having trouble accessing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I remember, autoridade tributaria had some buttons or links that wouldn’t do anything on firefox. I remember suspecting it was javascript, but then noticed that Chrome didn’t have issues.

Seg social and fundo ambiental had odd behaviors but I can’t remember exactly what they were.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I remember having to use Internet Explorer to do some actions on the autoridade tributária website, like simulating and submitting IRS (even had to download an external application) but that was like 10-12 years ago. More recently, I had to do some stuff with regards to opening and closing my activity (I was on recibos verdes for a while) and did it all through Firefox. Haven't had to do much else beyond this.

As for seg. social, I just tried to log in and it said my password expired and I had to create a new one. But when I filled in the password fields and tried to click on the button to submit it, it didn't work. In any browser. Because there was no fucking link associated with the button. So the button did nothing. I had to manually click on the "recover my password" link so I could a create a new one.

When I logged in, I just clicked on a few things, even simulated my retirement pension and everything worked. It's not much of a test, I know, but it's something.

Never entered fundo ambiental so I have no idea if it works or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I would have choses firefox if it had the support for tab grouping, something chromium browsers do really well and something I need for my workflow.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

why don't you read mozilla's privacy policy and compare it brave's

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