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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/selfhosted
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Just had NextCloud denying my credentials (not for the first time). I know they weren't wrong because I'm using a password manager. Logs didn't say much. Was about to reinstall (again, not the first time nextcloud went bonkers on me) before I tried a docker compose down && docker compose up. Lo and behold after a restart the credentials worked again.

This stuff is just way too flaky for something so important.

Is OwnCloud good again? My main usecase is saving photos but I don't want them locked away in a database so SeaFile is out.

Edit: I'm going to take the time to reply to you all, bit busy with work and family suddenly. But a little update - I've quickly setup Immich and fired up the CLI to import my library. AFAIK the files are still stored on disk somewhere but metadata is in a database. I didn't realize this before, knowing that I think my mind is made up and Immich is the best solution. Thanks everyone!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly don't see how my issues are related to docker. Sure the occ app was missing (or I just couldn't find it, but the conclusion was that I didn't even need it)

I'm running Linux so there's not really any inefficiencies in regards to resources AFAIK - it's just namespaces and cgroups.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I could give you plenty of reasons why you would be worse-off deploying from docker without deep understanding of what's going on, but to only list a few out of the obvious pile:

  • your container ships a bunch of things that you do not need and that take-up significant server resources. Not just nextcloud apps that you will never need but get loaded nonetheless, but also things like redis and a full-fledged collabora server that only make sense in a large-scale instances.

  • your container isn't tuned for your server because whoever made the container had no way to know that in advance. For instance, It might be that your php-fpm forks beyond your multithreading or IO capabilities, that your application cache isn't adequate wrt. your system's RAM memory, etc

  • your containers duplicate functionalities from each other and from the operating system. You don't need more than one http server, database, application process manager, interpreter, … but they add-up nonetheless and reduce the pool of available resources from the rest of the system and containers.