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So most people steal because they can't get a job, they can't pay for anything, and they can't even travel to find a job, and they can't leave the area they're in, even to steal in other places.
So in no way is it their fault, and the answer is more ways to get food, shelter, and money in the US, not beat people to tears.
While I agree with your position that this is a result of all the bad policies of the past I think you are missing the other side of the equation where people who live in crime ridden areas and don't steal from stores or their neighbors lose food access and access to items they need to live when stores pull out of the worst areas. People steal in all areas not just 'poor' areas but poor areas are hit the hardest when it is no longer possible to buy food within 5 - 10 miles or to go to a shopping center and buy clothes or whatever else you need to function in society.
I live in one of the top 5 "worst" cities in the country and I am tired of having my stuff stolen. In the last month I have had a car stolen, a bicycle stolen, and several people climb over my 6' fence in the middle of the night to see what they can steal from my yard. This is just in the last month. The last 10 years have been an ongoing cycle of thefts, murders, muggings, and assaults. I don't know where you're from or what your situation is but I hope it is someplace better where you don't have to worry about these things and it's a place where you can go to the store and not worry about someone robbing the store while you are in it.
Also that guy didn't steal food. He tried to steal a 30 gallon trash can full of cigarettes that he filled up by walking behind the counter and emptied out the display rack.
I feel like you have an idealistic outlook on people in general. I used to also and still do to a point but at some point you have to acknowledge the fact that there are times and people that do not deserve to be shared in that outlook.
My grocery store didn’t shut down because of people stealing bread or lunch meat. It shut down because of people stealing laundry detergent, more expensive beauty products, carting out hundreds of pounds of meat at a time. They’d put shit behind glass and inconvenience everyone but the fuckers would break it and steal it anyway. There were people involved in an organized crime ring where theyd literally go store to store stealing Tide. There’s a black market for laundry detergent, meat, beauty supplies, deodorants, teeth whitening supplies etc.
People stealing bread and lunch meat to survive aren’t bad people. People like the guy in this video are the bad ones. I’ll turn my head if I see someone stealing food to survive but when I see assholes filling up suitcases, trashbags or an entire garbage can I literally don’t feel bad if they get smacked with a stick.
My stuff has been stolen too, out of my garage, my yard, you can’t have anything outside in some areas without assholes stealing it. I’ve had a bullet go through my window, neighbor’s car windows shattered. It’s rough in a lot of places, and losing our grocery stores and pharmacies and other businesses because of theft and violent crime makes it even harder.
Yes I can blame my government for a lack of safety nets, although my city has decent safety nets. My city needs to crack down on violent crimes. We need to do something about the drug addicts that smash and grab for a quick buck and organized crime. All of my neighbors work and live paycheck to paycheck and you don’t see us out there thieving and fucking our community over.
Like I replied to the other dude, I probably should feel bad but I just don’t. It’s different when you live it.
It's a nation wide thing I'm pretty sure. We have the same crime rings here that do the same thing. It's known as the homeboy shopping network around here. They steal it all then have other people (usually a girlfriend or hanger on) sell it on social media sites or on the street. I regularly see household cleaning items for sale in bundles on local facebook groups. I was just at Home Depot tonight and the woman at the self checkout told us that just before we came up to check out 4 people walked right out with full carts. It sucks and it costs all of us.
My neighborhood has been having a crime wave all summer and it's all 11 - 15 year olds committing the assaults, shootings, and thefts. The police say that is who stole our car and they have no hope of ever catching them and if they do catch them they won't face any real consequences. The police gave up here both because they are apathetic but also because the police murdered a guy a few years ago and are mad several of them got charged with his murder so they stopped policing. I've had to call 911 about 15 times this year and when I could get through the average response time was over an hour.
I have been lucky to live in all types of areas but I know people who have never lived in an area like this have this belief that everyone is good and deserves a chance. I no longer believe that. There are plenty of people that will harm you, steal from you, or kill you and not waste a moment thinking about it.
Almost all of the people on my block work hard for their stuff also and it kills me when one of us lose it to people who steal it from us.