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So, with family anyways, despite all outside appearances Christians don't 'hate' a child who turns away. They still love the kid, but their religion teaches them that if they truly love them, they must do anything to make them come back to their religion - even abuse them hoping the kid breaks down and 'repents.' That's how twisted their doctrine is. It makes them commit atrocities in the name of love. And they're blind to it, because even when others point out how evil their abuse is, the doctrine teaches them that others will call "'good' (abuse) evil and 'evil' (acceptance) good." They truly believe they're helping. They believe that if their child is 'going to hell,' any amount of trauma and abuse with even a chance of preventing that is justified. It's not the people, it's the ideology. The very fundamentals of Christianity justify literally anything to convert a soul. It is fundamentally evil, all the way back to the moment Jesus died. Anything that claims to be better is no longer Christianity.

My source: The story of my life. A story of abuse and pain, of seeing my loving mother become a monster when I left the church. Forcing me to leave my unbelieving friends. Controling every part of my mind and beliefs to 'save' me. And seeing the atrocities that I committed under that same doctrine, and how I was blinded by it.

This needs to end. Christianity must end. The problem isn't the people - it's the doctrine. And until the moment that Christan doctrine is destroyed forever, it will never cease to turn more innocent, loving people - even my own mother - into monsters blinded by their evil.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

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And that's not the problem even. A pagan can embrace death, at least given some amount of agnosticism regarding the 'afterlife' (if that idea in your mind is what you need to live a good life in reality). The problem is religions that claim to know what the afterlife is, and more troublesome, claim that the way you live this life affects it. All of a sudden, your way of achieving psychological peace, using belief as a tool (whether you acknowlege its constructed nature or not), has turned into a burden on your life and the lives of others. All of a sudden you're violating others' autonomy (perhaps the only thing 'sacred' to oneself) in the name of 'love.' Even from a Nietzschean perspective, using 'belief' as a tool for for psychological stability to no longer linger on the fear of death (for the fear itself is innate and cannot v be conquered) isn't nonsensical. But using it to chase platonic ideas of a 'true reality' or 'absolute' truth becomes nonsensical, and a burden on others. All of a sudden you're exercising every ounce of your will to help others in your mind (subconsciously for your own benifit of achieving peace), when in reality you're only harming both parties... it's the only thing worse than not exercising your will to power - misdirecting it. Achieving total control over another, and only harming them and yourself with it...