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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2674486

TL;DR: the meat industry's misleading messaging campaign + lobbying

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't have any particular issues with plant based meats, but I really don't like the whole idea that everything has to replicate meat.

There are so many amazing dishes that just happen to be vegetarian/vegan that seem to go overlooked

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You often hear this take from non-vegans. If someone wants to make substitutes, what's the problem? Who cares?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Making the good option easier is a good way to get people to do the right thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One thing many vegans don't get about non-vegans is that we're frustrated at veganism for the same "reasonable if not valid" reasons. I've had some vegan family/friends have serious health issues directly related to their refusal to eat meat. Yes, there's a lot to that, and it usually spawns from people easily prone to PTSD being made to watch some disgusting documentary about the meat packing industry and going full starvation on and off until all their hair fell out. Is it veganism's fault? Not directly.

It's kinda like the Catholic Church. There's SO FEW pedophiles in the Catholic Church, but for anyone who has been touched by that, the Church itself is tainted far worse than the facts allow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For some people they need a sufficient meat replacement to be able to give up meat. People with ARFID for example who already have very limited food options and have a preference for meat can find it very difficult to just have vegetarian meals

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed, meat serves a specific role within traditional dishes. I find well cooked mushrooms to be one of the better substitutes in most sauce based dishes, though it lacks in protein. If we are going full vegan I believe South Indian to be some of the best cuisine in the world.

There is so much flexibility in cooking. I got some beyond meat Jamaican patties this week and I just genuinely wasn’t impressed with the flavor and texture.

I’d argue that bad implementation of substitutes is generally the culprit here. Meshing well with the cuisine is a better move. I’d rather have a curry rice with herbs filled patty.

Anyway I guess my point is that making meat replacement options just taste “OK” isn’t doing a lot of favors.