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Title text: No, we actually do have a woman who's basically part of our fellowship. She lives in Rivendell, you wouldn't know her.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How can he say that? Legolas is like right there.

[–] Historical_General 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It took me an awfully long time to realise that Legolas was played by Orlando Bloom, that Bloom was the name of that guy from Pirates of the Caribbean, and that that guy and Legolas were the same. In my defence I was around toddler age when the LotR films came out. It must have been a great time having LotR and Harry Potter plus other fantasy being put out.

[–] bassomitron 7 points 1 year ago

It was an amazing time. I miss those days, as all do who live through such times.

[–] solstice 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 2000s were a pretty great era for film and tv. LOTR and HP as you said, plus the first couple of Spider-Man movies with Toby McGuire, X Men, and the Star Wars prequels were very exciting, albeit disappointing. TV was great then with Lost, Jack Bauer, and House in full stride. And the Matrix! Holy fucking shit man, you'll never understand being in the theater opening weekend and seeing Trinity beat up those cops with bullet timing for the first time. Whole theater lost its shit, we'd never seen anything like it.

I feel like that was the end of the era where there were some core anchor shows and movies that EVERYONE saw. Now there's just so much content on so many platforms, and big budget movies and tv shows are intentionally bad (google fan baiting) so the culture is changing. Who knows where it'll go from here.

[–] Historical_General 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm hearing a lot about cancellations. The growth of AI doesn't bode well for quality. But I'm hoping the pay-dispute is settled favourably between workers and companies.

Did you hear about the Eragon series that's supposed to be due? It was confirmed some time ago.

[–] solstice 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hadn't heard, no. I don't really pay much attention anymore because everything I used to love has been systematically destroyed. SW, Star Trek, LOTR, the matrix, you name it.

Seriously though, google fan baiting. Here's the first article on it: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-hollywood-uses-fan-baiting-pr-marketing-strategy-biresh-vrajlal/

Hollywood knows it is dying and their work is no longer culturally relevant. So of course instead of changing strategy or making better content or whatever, they decide to intentionally piss people off with shitty rage bait content to drive engagement up.

With all that in mind, I'm simply not interested in 99% of their content. I'll catch barbie and oppenheimer when they get released on whatever streaming platform, and I'll go see Dune in imax later this year, other than that I'm friggin done with their shit.

[–] Historical_General 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes I can't help but think they use poc lead actors as human shields for bad filming choices. edit: that's in the article lol.

I think the rage bait stuff took off back in 2017 when idiots started smashing their keurigs and Keurig sales increased afterwards.

On racism - I'd say intentionally profitting from and weaponising racism is racist in itself, and I hope the people at Tumblr or whoever is CEO of 'authoritarian woke culture' calls them out more often.

[–] solstice 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Completely agree on all points. It's a touchy subject obviously but the results speak for themselves IMO.

The Critical Drinker on youtube pretty much speaks for me on this lol..he's a bit more aggressive and hyperbolic about it than I might be comfortable with but yeah, he pretty much sums it up more eloquently than I ever could.

[–] Historical_General 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No offense to people who don't read, but it seems like somebody with a platform like that (300k subs) should use their voice responsibly. You can have good ideas, but if you've never got yourself a coherent political philosophy to work from, and you don't read or at least skim over work from experts on the topic, you'll end up being part of the unthinking mainstream and repeating whatever people with the deepest pockets need you to say.

Idk what CD's angle is but he seems to be the average of his type. I assume he has avoided the pitfalls of some of his peers who complained about She-Ra wearing shorts?

[–] solstice 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with his film criticism and opinions on modern audiences and the new strong female character trope etc. I disagree with the notion that these things are part of a greater social/political problem. It's just Hollywood making shitty movies as it flails around dying, that's all. No need to build a political ideology around it.

[–] Historical_General 1 points 1 year ago

There's no reason why they can't be part of one or many agenda even if he himself is mistaken. Hollywood has a history and purpose you know. Politicians have blathered their mouths often about using it as a mouthpeice against 'official adversaries'.