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Is lemmy just going to become reddit 2.0? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The more I use lemmy, the more it begins to just feel like all the same problems reddit had. It has the same problems with major communities having far left moderation standards that only apply to the right, the same hive mind users that just spam the same tired out leftist talking points over and over while refusing anything close to an actual discussion.

The only upsides are that downvotes aren't used to punish you site wide, and the handful of non-leftist instances that exist, though they always end up defederated by all the major instances, effectively making them poor spaces for general discussion.

So what are your thoughts? Is this just the "more like under new management" from megamind? Is there hope for it to become a decent platform for everyone, not just the left?

Edit: yeah, it's just as bad. Fuck the retarded admins and fuck the left

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It looks like whining instead of discourse, people are saying that to you (albeit coarsely) and you’re biting your thumb at them.

You had a pretty fair amount of actual discussion with @Shit but otherwise real substance is pretty sparse

And why shouldn't I? If they have no interest in contributing anything remotely of value to converse over, why should I respect their pointless trolling. If they consider holding a dissenting opinion and opening it for discussion to be "whining", they aren't going to bother with reality anyway.

every conservative sub I dropped into was one comment insta-ban for out-group opinions

And this community here is a perfect example of why. Because it's fucking impossible to have a discussion when 90% of participants are belligerent leftist trolls.

T_D lived a full and festering life despite breaking sitewide rules about brigading and bringing national notoriety to the platform

If you're just going to throw your unyielding faith in everything spez says, why did you even come here? Brigading is literally just the primary rule reddit admins wage around to ban dissenters. There was no actual evidence of organized brigading from t_d. It was just a easy excuse to ban a dissenting community. Meanwhile dedicated brigading subs that lean left like ahs and srd? Not even the slightest hint of punishment.

The only thing I saw, even in r/politics which I think is about as lefty as it gets, was gratuitous downvoting

And frequent bans for anything remotely dissenting. I caught plenty of them. Meanwhile, they spam rule breaking content like calling everyone racist and fascist, despite rules against personal attacks.

but by and large I think when you are online you’re in the minority

I'm perfectly fine with not being the majority opinion. As I said, one of the things lemmy does right that reddit didn't is making downvotes meaningless. I don't have to worry about getting rare limited, shadow banned, and karma filters from half the site just because I voice unpopular opinions.

that’s the position a conservative viewpoint puts minority positions into in the real world and it just doesn’t seem very fun when nobody wants to tolerate you beyond acknowledging that you exist

Such as?

I still kinda wish this was all about a topic that wasn’t a meta topic.

You're free to go participate on the gun control post I made here as well. Unfortunately it seems most people would just rather downvote and ignore actual discussion here.

For not wanting to work at social media, you are definitely exhibiting some true grit in responding to basically every comment, lol

Firing off a quip and making them look like fools to any observer worth a damn is hardly work