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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As fill-in ads are a vector for computer viruses and other malware I for one will NOT be disabling my ad blocker unless YouTube is willing to provide a lifetime subscription to something like Life Lock and make me whole for anything lost to whatever malware arrives as a part of an ad.

Where else can I watch sci-show, Linus-tech-tips, and all the other channels I subscribe to?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just use newpipe. It's youtube without the ads. Doesn't have casting support, but it allows you to download the videos. You can also listen/download to the audio of videos, without fetching the video.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Newpipe will probably be blocked as well if youtube is doing this. Honestly not sure why youtube hasn't blocked yt-dlp and others already.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not easily block able as it scrapes the YouTube website. They'd have to stop having a website for that to happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem with scraping is that while it’s difficult/impossible to block completely, it’s pretty easy to keep making changes to your site to disrupt scrapers. The work required by the scraper to adapt to those changes is usually way more than the work you put in to disrupt them.

So if a commercial site wants to make scraping unreliable and impractical, they almost certainly can.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's also easy for the NewPipe devs to update their app and make it work again. This has been going on for years already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not a 100% sure but I think newpipe uses a scraping method instead, so its harder to block since it pretends its a regular user

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@beatniak @blank_sl8 recently many yt-dlp User Interfaces stopped working, I couldn't download certain videos. So maybe the cat and mouse is about to begin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

this particular cat and mouse has been going on for a long time.

Although I get the impression it's not particularly aggressive.

There was a while there about a year ago where newpipe seemed to break every week and you had to install the next patch version from github. It's not like newpipe had to develop some new workaround or something, just changed class names or something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is why I download so many YouTube videos. This is why I have a complicated video tags and search system (I'll put it on github eventually).

Some day it's going to get taken away and I'm not watching those trashy ads. I'd watch a non-obnoxious 15-30 second ad every 30 minutes but they want us to watch 2 minutes of unskippable full-r*tard annoying trash every 5 minutes and I will not cooperate with that in any way shape or form.

I think a reasonable ad system is that thing where YouTubers do that sponsorship thing and make it part of the video then you can skip it if it sucks.