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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Newpipe will probably be blocked as well if youtube is doing this. Honestly not sure why youtube hasn't blocked yt-dlp and others already.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not easily block able as it scrapes the YouTube website. They'd have to stop having a website for that to happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem with scraping is that while it’s difficult/impossible to block completely, it’s pretty easy to keep making changes to your site to disrupt scrapers. The work required by the scraper to adapt to those changes is usually way more than the work you put in to disrupt them.

So if a commercial site wants to make scraping unreliable and impractical, they almost certainly can.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's also easy for the NewPipe devs to update their app and make it work again. This has been going on for years already.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly curious if they'd ever consider that, considering how popular watching youtube on the phone is, so I could see them trying to get even desktop users to use an app to prevent 3rd party launchers

If they did though, it would probably cause at least a decent number of people to try to find alternatives

At the end of the day, the main way the fediverse gets new users is the big tech companies screwing up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only problem with YouTube alternatives like peertube is video is it's a LOT harder to store/stream than just text with occasional images (especially if it's higher res like is common these days)

I would love for it to catch on, but honestly don't see how it could for any real percentage of people

That beeing said, if YouTube ever messes up to that extent, I'll be one of the first out the door

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not a 100% sure but I think newpipe uses a scraping method instead, so its harder to block since it pretends its a regular user

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@beatniak @blank_sl8 recently many yt-dlp User Interfaces stopped working, I couldn't download certain videos. So maybe the cat and mouse is about to begin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

this particular cat and mouse has been going on for a long time.

Although I get the impression it's not particularly aggressive.

There was a while there about a year ago where newpipe seemed to break every week and you had to install the next patch version from github. It's not like newpipe had to develop some new workaround or something, just changed class names or something.