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Tl;dr; expansion pretty much change whole game, reworks core game mechanics and adds whole new district. Plus Idris Elba and more of Keanu with expansion having almost as much lines as core game.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literally this. Even in older games journalism there was a difference between additional content and true expansions. We used to call developers out for labelling something as an expansion that didn't have enough additional content. This is pretty close to what full expansions used to cost ($20-25 is what I remember for something like Shadows of Amn), and the amount of additional content fits.

I think a lot of people are used to the incremental and constant content release for live services games that are generally free. More is not always better, though...and free is not always free lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Wouldn't the controversy be that Cyberpunk is incomplete, and this expansion is actually the finished game?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's weird to me that people say it was ever unfinished (prev gen consoles aside) It was buggy and wasn't the life simulator nerds wanted but the story is among the best in video games and the game play is incredibly satisfying. While also having the best looking graphics of any game to date.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't get that. Cyberpunk is by no means perfect. But how is it not a complete game? I put in a ton of hours and thoroughly enjoyed it. Are you saying that because the AI was bad, it's incomplete? Cause very, very few games are complete if that's the benchmark we use.

It got over hyped, but capital G gamers did what they do best and blew it out of proportion as if someone kicked their baby.

Note: I played on PC several months after launch. Maybe it was incomplete when it came out, but it sure as hell ain't now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think additional content is fine, even if it's expanding the story. That's not super unusual even going back years ago to Baldurs Gate 2's expansion finishing the story, and is often referred to as a trilogy due to the expansion, or Lord of Destruction.

It sounds like the changes made to the base game will be implemented even if you don't buy this DLC which is good. Base game changes and improvements to AI shouldn't be sold separately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is one of the things I love about Paradox games, when they release expansions they always release a free big patch with them to include all the non-expansion stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If there was something that was incomplete about Cyberpunk, it was the stuff that they've done to the game up to this expansion that fixed problems it launched with. A game isn't incomplete just because they add more to it later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the overhaul is free though so you're only paying for new story content

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There wouldn't be any controversy if people stopped buying unfinished games, though.

Once you've bought it, you've signaled that it's complete enough for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The totality of those expansions in a lot of cases ended up costing $30 and having similar amounts of content. Dishonored had two story DLCs for $15 each, part 1 and part 2. So...that's $30. Yeah, if there's a controversy here, there shouldn't be.